New Dell XPS 8500 vs. building my own

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Sorry if this is in the wrong thread. I wasn't getting much help in "opinions and experiences" and there seems to be more traffic here.

Dell Specs in a nutshell:

OPERATING SYSTEM Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64Bit, English

MEMORY 12GB Dual Channel DDR3 1600MHz - 4 DIMMs

OPTICAL DRIVE 16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW), write to CD/DVD

HARD DRIVE 2TB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive + Intel® SRT 32GB SSD Cache

VIDEO CARD AMD Radeon™ HD 7870 2GB GDDR5

PROCESSORS 3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-3770 processor (up to 3.90 GHz)

TOTAL: $1,249.98

or build my own computer. I looked on newegg.com and quickly calculated a total of equal or superior parts to be about in the same range as the Dell. I know if I look harder I can find a better bargain for the same parts, but is building your own computer worth it? Will I benefit from price and specs of a custom computer over the Dell XPS 8500 that I mentioned? What are you opinions?
 
Glad to see we are getting closer to what you want. A few more modifications:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gKRb

Dropped the hyper 212+. You can use the amd heatsink fan that comes with the cpu.
Since it has the same cooler as 970BE(3.5ghz), 975BE(3.6) and 980BE(3.7), you should
be able to bump up the multiplier a few notches without much if any voltage increase
and keep cpu temps under control. You might even be able to undervolt as well.

Also spent 4 bucks more on ram that won't bonk heads with a fan on a tower cooler
should you decide you want one in the future. It's still 2x4GB of patriot ddr3 1600,
just at a more standard C.A.S. latency 9 vs CL8.

I want to keep that same hd7750 in there so you feel like it's more of an upgrade, but
here is another 7750 model that costs a penny more but is 9.99 less up front:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161403&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

The msi is 109.99 plus 4.99 shipping and has a 20 dollar rebate. This HIS is 104.99 with
free shipping and a 10 dollar rebate. The heatsink fan looks pretty puny by comparison,
but is more than enough to quietly cool the 7750(better than the reference design, even)
and could allow for some overclocking as well.

The total now comes to 538.87 after 40 dollar in MIRs or 538.88 after 30 dollars of MIRs.

A few more tidbits to think about for future upgrading.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161404

This 2GB HIS 7870 with IceQ cooler has been in stock, out of stock, in stock, and out of
stock several times today at newegg. It is 199.99 shipped after a 20 dollar mail in rebate.
The the blower style exhausting heatsink fan with copper heatpipes makes for both a
cool and quiet card that should be a good overclocker. Since even a mild oc will put it over
a 300 dollar 7950 or 285 dollar gtx660ti, it makes for a pretty sweet upgrade path(as long
as it or something like it is on sale at that price).

Also heard tell of ssd prices hitting 50 cents per GB, but when checking pcpartpicker and
newegg found only the likes of 70 dollar 120GB drives. That is... until checking the end
of the page at newegg and finding this: (actually a cost versus capacity search)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227706

Not only have we met 50 cents per GB with ssd pricing, we have exceeded it. I was
looking for a 120GB drive at 60 bucks but found a fairly fast sata 6gbps ocz vertex 3 120GB
drive for 49.99 after a 10 dollar rebate. Yes, they are out of stock and may not get more in
stock, but the mere idea of there being more prices like this in the near future when you
can afford to add an ssd is pretty awesome.

I was going to expand more on something along the lines of using an online tool to find a
distribution of linux that you might like and download it for free, removing the windows
tax of 89.98. With a program? called Wine, you might be able to run windows games on
linux. Of course there are a variety of free office suites compatible with microsoft office
and media players for your music too. Even browsers that would be more secure to run
in linux than on windows. You could download a live cd iso with multiple linux distros to
try, and if you like one (or more) you could use it for things other than games if you either
get windows right away or pay for that "upgrade" in the near future and do a dual boot
system. Crazy no? But something you can try out some now before making a final decision.

I would mention that with the extra burden off your budget, you could bump up the current
graphics to the HD7770 mentioned earlier while staying under 500 before rebates.

I'm feeling peckish and should probably eat something. This is just a little food for thought.

Edit: almost forgot. It has been mentioned that the i7 3770 is in excess of what you
need for your most systematically strenuous task(gaming) buy at least 100(if not
200) dollars. The starter build with win7 plus the addition of good speed /cost/price
ssd at 50? and an upgrade in gpu of 200 will be less than 800 total. You could also
get a large percentage of your money back later on the initial system's radeon gpu.
If you could get over 50% back you'd be under 750. And I forgot to post a link
comparing i5s, i7s, PIIs, and the upcoming mystery priced socket am3+ piledriver FX:

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/135388-amd-cpu-bonanza-trinity-desktop-prices-intels-counter-and-the-piledriver-fx-8350s-performance

The PII x4 980BE trades blows with i5 2300, while the FX 8350 trades blows with
the i7 quads. You could have PIIx4 980BE levels of performance right away, and
be able to upgrade to FX 8350 in the future(pricing is still unclear at this point).

Socket 1155 is a dead socket, but socket am3+ is alive and well.
 
You do realize that you're talking to a complete noob when it comes to computer internals right? haha just running that by ya 😉. Hey, I do appreciate the enthusiasm and benevolent advice though. I will have you an answer hopefully in the next 24 hours on where we can go based on my budget. Hopefully, I will have some play room to bump up all the significant specs that I'm wanting/looking for. FYI, you will be getting the top answer either way. Thank you kind sir.