[SOLVED] New Desktop Build

[trl]

Custom built a new computer couple times before and both still running great, been about five years since the last build, so time to update with a new build.
I am not a computer expert and do not follow all of the trends, and most reliable parts.
Don't do too much gaming, but have an Epson V850 pro scanner and scan documents at very high dpi for archival storage.
Thinking about starting with :
Cougar Panzer EVO RGB case
intel i9 9900k coffee lake processor
ROG Maximus Extreme X1 mother board.
Sound doable? Compatible? Give me your thoughts.
Thanks so very much Todd

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Hi Todd,

Do you have a budget in mind?

There are lots of options out there, and at the moment AMD is bringing it and then some to Intel.

Price depending, you can get a very capable system for less than you might think.

 

[DeauteratedDog]

Crazy overkill if all you are going to use if for is scanning and saving off documents, and office/productivity applications.
That scanner is just USB 2.0, so it's not even an I/O monster.

Are you doing any image processing on this computer (color correction, defect correction, etc)? That might justify a big CPU, but otherwise something mid-range will be more than enough.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Something like this would be a good starting point, and be ample for your needs:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($322.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($168.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($128.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($169.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($145.18 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cougar PANZER EVO RGB ATX Full Tower Case ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($103.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $1500.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-08 14:24 EST-0500

Even that system is overkill for your needs. But would be a great all rounder, that is capable at practically any usage scenario. Gaming, editing, etc

 

[trl]

Thank you all for the quick responses. Budget under 3000 would be good. One of the reasons for overkill is want it to be a good fast long term workhorse. Probably do not want to build another one for several years.
I like speed when I run programs or want to do something new.
May retire in a couple months and may get into gaming, not sure.
Trying to be future proof for 8k video, gaming, photo processing, etc.
Right now when I scan old large photo negatives at high dpi the computer seems to run out of steam, just get an error message. Decrease dpi and works fine with digital ice software.
Also collect old 78 rpm records and will soon need to process sound, store and share.
Would like to save as much as possible, but have found in the past if I don't plan ahead, wish I would have spent the few hundred more and did it right the first time.
I am running 32 GB of memory now, does not seem to be enough. Perhaps that is why the scanning error message?
Will need a lot of storage for saving large photos and negatives uncompressed. And songs also.
Thanks so very much, keep it coming.

 

[GarrettL]

The AMD offerings will work great for your needs.

If you go AMD and decide on the x570 motherboard please don't buy a low end MSI board. They have weaker VRM's designs and run hot. People are always choosing them in Parts Picker but look at the reviews and unless you go high end MSI don't waste the money. Spend a little more and get a really good x570 like the Gigabyte.

https://www.tomshardware.com/review...html#section-best-mid-priced-x570-motherboard

I also wouldn't buy a 3900x as it's pretty pricey and the 3700x would be fine for your needs. Wait on the next generation of Ryzen 4000 cpu's. That's your "long term" upgrade path in the future.

If speed is what you like then the x570 and M2 drives are the fastest thing available right now.

 

[trl]

Thank you all. Not arguing but just getting more information and opinions.
I do talk with many friends that are into computers, and in the past ten years everyone told me to stay away from MSI, so that will not be an issue. Why I want to stay with ASUS for the motherboard, with the last two builds, ten years now, have used ASUS and have not had an issue, other than needing a couple time bios update. What I am currently using is the ASUS X-99 Deluxe updated board.
Processor is Intel i7 5930 Haswell.
Why I opt towards Intel is on the last build, about five years ago, went online like I am doing now, and while AMD seems to offer much more for your money, it was hands down go Intel for reliability and longevity. Many people stated forget the numbers just stay with old reliable.
Why the ASUS Maximus board is I went to ASUS and asked them which board is compatible with the 9900K they stated only two of their boards, the Maximus Extreme and one other that was just a couple hundred dollars, so trying to upgrade from the X-99 thinking Maximus.
Another reason for getting input from many people is I made the mistake of purchasing the 32gb memory from G.Skill recommendations only to find out from ASUS that they were not compatible with the X-99 board without a bios update, which needed to be done twice, then everything worked together.
This is why I am turning to the experts, that use hardware and software on a daily basis, read articles, and chat with fellow enthusiasts.
Starting with the case, motherboard, processor, and perhaps a bit of water cooling for the processor. Get these items together and purchased, then I think everything else will fall into place?
Want to make sure the motherboard will fit the case, the processor fits the motherboard, cooling fits the processor. And the case has the easiest and latest upgrades. And the case has plenty of room for SSD memory in raid, or 0, or something like that so there is backup if I understand correctly?
I know just enough to be dangerous, really.

 

[trl]

Crazy overkill if all you are going to use if for is scanning and saving off documents, and office/productivity applications.
That scanner is just USB 2.0, so it's not even an I/O monster.

Are you doing any image processing on this computer (color correction, defect correction, etc)? That might justify a big CPU, but otherwise something mid-range will be more than enough.

Looks like you have been around awhile, thanks for your response keep it coming.

 

[trl]

Something like this would be a good starting point, and be ample for your needs:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($322.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($168.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($128.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($169.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($145.18 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cougar PANZER EVO RGB ATX Full Tower Case ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($103.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $1500.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-08 14:24 EST-0500

Even that system is overkill for your needs. But would be a great all rounder, that is capable at practically any usage scenario. Gaming, editing, etc

Thank you for taking the time to respond with all of your knowledge, tried part picker, and its selections did not match manufacturer recommendations for component matching.

 

[trl]

Thank you for taking the time to respond with all of your knowledge, tried part picker, and its selections did not match manufacturer recommendations for component matching.

Thank you for taking the time to respond with all of your knowledge, tried part picker, and its selections did not match manufacturer recommendations for component matching.

 

[trl]

Thank you all again. I can go AMD. When I look at their processors there is generally little price difference in the middle class processors, so for maybe 100 more or less which might be the best one to purchase, and the best mother board? Overall which mother board company is the most reliable, and has the latest features, knowing it will likely not be replaces for several years? Would like to purchase the case, mother board and processor at the same time so I know which radiator to get for the Cougar Panzer case from Cougar to match the lighting and fitment. Thanks

 

[GarrettL]

The x570's from Asus and Gigabyte are good from the low end offerings up to the high end. Good VRM's for all.

The MSI low end boards run hot. Higher end are good.

For the x570 it's what do you want or need?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGY2mqTn2rc

 

[trl]

Started to watch the video far too fast for me!!! Switching back and fourth between screen shots, and boards, wow. If we should decide on the amd 3900x the aorus x57 or asrock x570 will work, if so will research these boards. Thanks