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On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 04:41:03 GMT, David S
<dwstreeter@spamisnaughty.att.net> wrote:

>But if Gerry is right about digital and AMPS using the same antennae

They often share a tower, but the antenna are not the same. Digital
are the directional flat panels. AMPS are the omni-directional
sticks.
 
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You will find that omni directional sites are actually rare nowadays.
Maybe in rural areas, but almost never in higher traffic areas.
And this includes AMPS.



"The Ghost of General Lee" <ghost@general.lee> wrote in message news:21j8f0t5gvn0s1ch02lkbjrcgpi0ic7cgp@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 04:41:03 GMT, David S

> They often share a tower, but the antenna are not the same. Digital
> are the directional flat panels. AMPS are the omni-directional
> sticks.
>
 
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BZZZZZ, wrong. ;-)

I have setup both kinds. Depends on the traffic for that site.
Back in the 80's, there were a lot of sites in Los Angeles that were 60deg
sector sites around heavy traffic areas.
Wash DC is no different. Got AMPS sector/sector sites today all over. (
receive/transmit and can also be sector/omni or omni/omni )

Scotty


"The Ghost of General Lee" <ghost@general.lee> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 04:41:03 GMT, David S
> <dwstreeter@spamisnaughty.att.net> wrote:
>
> >But if Gerry is right about digital and AMPS using the same antennae
>
> They often share a tower, but the antenna are not the same. Digital
> are the directional flat panels. AMPS are the omni-directional
> sticks.
>
 
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:08:02 -0700, "Richard Ness"
<richardno@damnspam.nessnet.com> wrote:

>You will find that omni directional sites are actually rare nowadays.
>Maybe in rural areas, but almost never in higher traffic areas.
>And this includes AMPS.

When they went digital around here several years ago, they never
swapped out the AMPS sticks. They put up digital panels on existing
towers, and put up a lot more new digital only sites. The AMPS sticks
that were here 7-8 years ago are for the most part still in place.
 
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The exception, definitely not the rule....
Do you live in out in the boonies?
Or a low cell 'traffic' area?

And..... most all of the carriers sectorized their AMPS sites WAY
before digital was even implemented, in most all urban areas.


"The Ghost of General Lee" <ghost@general.lee> wrote in message news:hoqaf0dg201totievnvec9mnnu68u5ja3b@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:08:02 -0700, "Richard Ness"
> <richardno@damnspam.nessnet.com> wrote:
>
> >You will find that omni directional sites are actually rare nowadays.
> >Maybe in rural areas, but almost never in higher traffic areas.
> >And this includes AMPS.
>
> When they went digital around here several years ago, they never
> swapped out the AMPS sticks. They put up digital panels on existing
> towers, and put up a lot more new digital only sites. The AMPS sticks
> that were here 7-8 years ago are for the most part still in place.
>
 
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True but they may have just left/abandoned the Omni's in place as
well........
Ya never know, he could be right. Maybe they only have a couple of channels
now and an OMNI is all they need to maintain the AMPS requirement. Sounds
kind of logical from an engineering sort of view.

Scotty



"Richard Ness" <richardno@damnspam.nessnet.com> wrote in message
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> The exception, definitely not the rule....
> Do you live in out in the boonies?
> Or a low cell 'traffic' area?
>
> And..... most all of the carriers sectorized their AMPS sites WAY
> before digital was even implemented, in most all urban areas.
>
>
> "The Ghost of General Lee" <ghost@general.lee> wrote in message
news:hoqaf0dg201totievnvec9mnnu68u5ja3b@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:08:02 -0700, "Richard Ness"
> > <richardno@damnspam.nessnet.com> wrote:
> >
> > >You will find that omni directional sites are actually rare nowadays.
> > >Maybe in rural areas, but almost never in higher traffic areas.
> > >And this includes AMPS.
> >
> > When they went digital around here several years ago, they never
> > swapped out the AMPS sticks. They put up digital panels on existing
> > towers, and put up a lot more new digital only sites. The AMPS sticks
> > that were here 7-8 years ago are for the most part still in place.
> >
>
>
 
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:13:33 -0700, "Richard Ness"
<richardno@damnspam.nessnet.com> wrote:

>The exception, definitely not the rule....
>Do you live in out in the boonies?
>Or a low cell 'traffic' area?

I guess you could have called it a rural, low traffic area when I
moved here in '91 and signed up with BAM in '95. But it has become
quiter more suburban and the traffic is up greatly Most of the rural
towers they have added around here in the past 6-7 years are digital
only.

>And..... most all of the carriers sectorized their AMPS sites WAY
>before digital was even implemented, in most all urban areas.

Then if I lived in an "urban area" I wouldn't be seeing all the AMPS
sticks, right?
 
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 04:43:07 GMT, "Scott Nelson - Wash DC"
<spamcop@bnmnetworks.net> wrote:

>True but they may have just left/abandoned the Omni's in place as
>well........
>Ya never know, he could be right. Maybe they only have a couple of channels
>now and an OMNI is all they need to maintain the AMPS requirement. Sounds
>kind of logical from an engineering sort of view.

My guess (from repeated failed attempts to reach 911 on AMPS in
certain spots) that there is only one or two active AMPS channels left
around here. Where I live, I certainly get a much better digital
signal than when I force it to AMPS. I doubt our AMPS service was
ever sectorized.