New fan for an AMD Phenom II x6?

[Mikel Garcia Vaquero]

Hi, I'm buying a new CPU, an AMD Phenom II x6, and I wanted to know if I'm going to need a new fan for it. I'm not really sure of which one I have right now (could be a generic one), but if it helps, the CPU is an AMD Sempron 140 Sargas. It has never overheated or anything, but maybe this new CPU will be more demanding in terms of temperature.

And, if I'm going to need a new fan, it would be cool if any of you could tell me which one, in a range of about 50 € (I think that's 40-45 $).

Thank you.

Here's a creepy photo of the fan I have now:

 

[WildCard999]

If you can fit it in your case I would reccomend a Cooler Master Hyper Evo 212. It brought my AMD 965x4 from 45c idle down to 32c idle.

 

[Mikel Garcia Vaquero]

If you can fit it in your case I would reccomend a Cooler Master Hyper Evo 212. It brought my AMD 965x4 from 45c idle down to 32c idle.

Hummm, I think that's way too big

In any case, you think I'll certainly need a new one, isn't it?

 

[delellod123]

new fan will be included in box

 

[Mikel Garcia Vaquero]

new fan will be included in box

Thing is, I'm buying it on eBay, and it only includes the CPU itself :/

 

[WildCard999]

If you can fit it in your case I would reccomend a Cooler Master Hyper Evo 212. It brought my AMD 965x4 from 45c idle down to 32c idle.

Hummm, I think that's way too big

In any case, you think I'll certainly need a new one, isn't it?

You will definently need a new cpu cooler. The stock one is junk.

 

[WildCard999]

How much clearance do you have between the cpu and the outside of the case?

 

[WildCard999]

Or do you have a case where a closed loop water cooler would be a option? Or if you don't have ram with heatsinks where a low-profile cooler might be a good solution.

 

[Mikel Garcia Vaquero]

How much clearance do you have between the cpu and the outside of the case?

More or less 12-13 cm (that's about 5 inches)

 

[Mikel Garcia Vaquero]

Or do you have a case where a closed loop water cooler would be a option? Or if you don't have ram with heatsinks where a low-profile cooler might be a good solution.

Let's just say that the case is small. And old.
A fan of about 12 cm could fit, though.

 

[Mikel Garcia Vaquero]

If you can fit it in your case I would reccomend a Cooler Master Hyper Evo 212. It brought my AMD 965x4 from 45c idle down to 32c idle.

Hummm, I think that's way too big

In any case, you think I'll certainly need a new one, isn't it?

You will definently need a new cpu cooler. The stock one is junk.

What do you think of this one?

 

[WildCard999]

Or do you have a case where a closed loop water cooler would be a option? Or if you don't have ram with heatsinks where a low-profile cooler might be a good solution.

Let's just say that the case is small. And old.
A fan of about 12 cm could fit, though.

WOW that is one dirty computer! Carefully use a air compressor and blow it out or canned air. Also if you can try to zip-tie some of the wires back allowing more room for a fan. So at this point I say go with a low profile cpu cooler like the Zalman CNPS8900 Extreme.

 

[WildCard999]

If you can fit it in your case I would reccomend a Cooler Master Hyper Evo 212. It brought my AMD 965x4 from 45c idle down to 32c idle.

Hummm, I think that's way too big

In any case, you think I'll certainly need a new one, isn't it?

You will definently need a new cpu cooler. The stock one is junk.

What do you think of this one?

That would be fine.

 

[Mikel Garcia Vaquero]

Or do you have a case where a closed loop water cooler would be a option? Or if you don't have ram with heatsinks where a low-profile cooler might be a good solution.

Let's just say that the case is small. And old.
A fan of about 12 cm could fit, though.

WOW that is one dirty computer! Carefully use a air compressor and blow it out or canned air. Also if you can try to zip-tie some of the wires back allowing more room for a fan. So at this point I say go with a low profile cpu cooler like the Zalman CNPS8900 Extreme.

THANKS A LOT! And about all that dirt, I know. It'd been months since the last time I opened the case. Shame on me.

 

[WildCard999]

Or do you have a case where a closed loop water cooler would be a option? Or if you don't have ram with heatsinks where a low-profile cooler might be a good solution.

Let's just say that the case is small. And old.
A fan of about 12 cm could fit, though.

WOW that is one dirty computer! Carefully use a air compressor and blow it out or canned air. Also if you can try to zip-tie some of the wires back allowing more room for a fan. So at this point I say go with a low profile cpu cooler like the Zalman CNPS8900 Extreme.

THANKS A LOT! And about all that dirt, I know. It'd been months since the last time I opened the case. Shame on me.

NP!!! Enjoy that processor!!!

 

[Mikel Garcia Vaquero]

Or do you have a case where a closed loop water cooler would be a option? Or if you don't have ram with heatsinks where a low-profile cooler might be a good solution.

Let's just say that the case is small. And old.
A fan of about 12 cm could fit, though.

WOW that is one dirty computer! Carefully use a air compressor and blow it out or canned air. Also if you can try to zip-tie some of the wires back allowing more room for a fan. So at this point I say go with a low profile cpu cooler like the Zalman CNPS8900 Extreme.

THANKS A LOT! And about all that dirt, I know. It'd been months since the last time I opened the case. Shame on me.

NP!!! Enjoy that processor!!!

I've just passed a vacuum cleaner and a brush and the CPU average temperature dropped some 10º C

 

[WildCard999]

Much better!!!

 

[bmacsys]

Hi, I'm buying a new CPU, an AMD Phenom II x6, and I wanted to know if I'm going to need a new fan for it. I'm not really sure of which one I have right now (could be a generic one), but if it helps, the CPU is an AMD Sempron 140 Sargas. It has never overheated or anything, but maybe this new CPU will be more demanding in terms of temperature.

And, if I'm going to need a new fan, it would be cool if any of you could tell me which one, in a range of about 50 € (I think that's 40-45 $).

Thank you.

Here's a creepy photo of the fan I have now:

You must smoke. That whole pc needs to be taken apart COMPLETELY and cleaned with mild soapy water, rinsed well and then allowed to dry for a few days and reassembled. I can only imagine the filth inside your power supply. That cooler is doing nothing to keep your processor cooled with all the crap between the fins.

 

[slyu9213]

I see two spots at the back of the case where you can add fans. They don't seem to be 120mm but whatever the size is adding two fans as exhausts should help with airflow compared to having nothing.

.:edit:.

Also the stock heatsink is probably no more than 2" tall. From what I remember a Hyper 212 is no more than 17cm (6.69") tall. It may be able to fit your case. The heatsink you have won't be good enough because the stock heatsink for a Phenom II X6 is better than what you have and actually came with copper heat pipes.

It looks like you're using a similar/same heatsink as what come with some of AMD's APUs. I have a picture with two of them with a CM Hyper TX3. A TX3 should definitely fit your case by looking at the picture but not sure if it's the best performer. I did use the TX3 to keep my Phenom II X6 1055T cool for a few years until I bought a Antec Khuler 620 Closed loop water cooler for overclocking.

 

[mdocod]

That motherboard is not going to do well with a CPU upgrade.

3 phase VRMs.

6 core phenom II.

I'm concerned you may be creating more problems than you are going to solve here: The 1035T is the only 6 core that stands a chance of working well on there, and even still, is going to run into power delivery problems if you run it hard (rendering/transcoding/compiling etc).

If the 6 core chip you've bought is a 1055T or higher, you're going to need to custom tune it to run at reduced voltage and clocks in order to prevent over-heating the motherboard.

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Given the state of VRMs on that board, I would advise finding an HSF that induces significant air-flow over the VRMs of your motherboard. Avoid "tower" style heatsinks like the TX3 shown above.

The unusual placement of the CPU-VRMs on your board is going to make finding an HSF that does this difficult. Normally I would advise using the AMD 140W HSF, but your VRMs are positions out of the directed path of air-flow from those HSFs. The AR06 from silverstone is a similar design, and again, will direct air-flow away from the VRMs...

The previously mentioned CNPS8900 is probably a good option here... You're looking for HSF designs with down-blowing fans, but with the heatsink fins arranged or floated such that they do not block airflow over your motherboard VRMs.

 

[slyu9213]

mdocod is on to something. My first computer I began gaming intensively came with a 45W TDP CPU (Athlon 4050e). Later I upgraded the CPU to a Athlon 64 X2 6400+ which is a 125W TDP processor. The CPU ran but the motherboard ended up dying an early death (less than 7 years, every other motherboard I have works). I didn't know what the problem was but years later after learning more about computers I saw that the VRM/Mosfet/Power Phase area was a dirty brown and the board was much darker compared to the other parts of the motherboard. The increase in CPU power/TDP must have done damage to it.

I originally used the 1055T on a GA-MA770-UD3 which is a 4+1 Phase motherboard. I ran the 1055T at stock speeds and a light overclock at 3.2GHz. Currently it's being ran on a ECS A885GM-A2 at OCed 3.7GHz. Not sure what the phase layout is.

If you get the Phenom II X6 you will/may have to run it at slower speeds and voltages like mdocod suggested otherwise your motherboard might die an early death too.