New FX 8370 CPU

[bote110]

Just got a FX 8370 cpu for my system

G.Skill Sniper 1866 CL9 16GB DDR3 ram
Cool Master 212 EVO cpu cooler
Sadartooth R2.0 motherboard
EVGA Super Nova 850w Gold PSU
MSI R9 280x PSU
1 SATA DVD Drive
SATA III 6GB 1T drive
SATA 500GB drive both drives on port 1-2 set on AHCI
on in a Phanteks Enthoo Series case!

Not planning on doing any Hard OCing maybe a tweak or too from motherboard auto settings so I will be running my CM 212 EVO cooler w/ 2x 120mm fans . If later I decide to venture into a water cooler system for my set-up what will be a best water cooler to get ?

 

[drtweak]

I have a Corsair H100i - Have a FX 8320 OCed to 4.4 stable. Idle temps are below 40, gaming gets in the 50's and when i do video convertion and max out all 8 cores it can get into low 70's

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

I like the Kraken X61.

 

[drinkingcola86]

I run a custom liquid loop on my 8320 that is at 4.4 ghz and have yet to have a problem. usually runs in the low 40's to low 50's when gaming/video editing. I would say if your case can handle it look at a closed loop cooler with a 240 mm radiator if not most 120 mm radiators would work.

 

[bote110]

I've seen the Corsair H100i on sell at Best Buy , I was told the Cool Master Nepton 240m was a good cooler for my board, I kind of like the CM Nepton 280L . I'm going to keep my CM 212 EVO w/2x fans for now until I save some $$ and do some more reading on these water coolers. I only watch movies ,surf the net my son plays War Thunder and wife does he crafts an plays angry birds. So no need to be doing any hard core OCing with this system.

 

[drtweak]

DON"T go with a 120. Min 240. My dad has a stock 8320 with a H60i on it. it idles in the 50s still. You need something beefier with the 8 Cores. the 6 Cores are ok with a H60i or even the stock cooler if set to stock settings and no OC.

 

[Redneck5439]

I have almost an identical setup. I have a 1000W 80+ gold psu, Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 and FX 8370. I was on the Hyper 212 EVO until I upgraded to the H100i a few months ago (well almost a year now). With my setup I was able to hit a maximum overclock of 4.7Ghz while on the Hyper 212 EVO @ ~1.3V. I did have two Delta 3400rpm fans in a push pull config on the Hyper 212, and I also have 8 120mm case fans. With standard 120mm fans in push/pull and the Hyper 212 you should be able to hit around 4.5Ghz. The FX 8370s are the best binned chips that AMD has ever produced and therefore they overclock easier at lower Vcore thus producing less heat while overclocked. To get to 4.5Ghz totally stable I only needed 1.24V, 4.7Ghz yielded the need of 1.3V, 5Ghz 1.42V and 5.5Ghz I have it currently set to 1.52V (had it at 1.55V for awhile but found it didn't need that much @ 5.5Ghz) I have had it stable at 6Ghz and 1.6V but have to play with it more as I don't think the Vcore needs to be that high at 6Ghz, just haven't had the free time to do so yet, and really pushing past 5.5Ghz isn't really necessary. The point being that the FX 8370 is a great overclocker and needs lower Vcore than any other AMD processor I've ever overclocked (and I've overclocked everything from 8120 to 9590).

The Hyper 212 EVO in push pull (2 Delta 3400rpm fans) allowed me to hit 4.7Ghz totally stable. I got to 4.8Ghz but the Hyper 212 couldn't handle the heat which is why I upgraded to the H100i GTX to get all my higher overclocks. To be perfectly honest with you I am actually thinking about selling my H100i GTX as a used part in one of my next customer builds and going to the NH-D15 instead. It doesn't have quite the cooling of the H100i GTX, but it is withing 2C of it, and with the Delta fans I saved from the Hyper 212 EVO I'm figuring it will have the same cooling capabilities of the H100i GTX without the headaches water cooling causes. Water cooling needs a pump constantly running to keep the coolant flowing though it, if it fails you have no cooling and can burn up a processor in seconds. There is also the constant fear that you could develop a coolant leak and fry your system. I have enjoyed my H100i GTX, but am leaning more and more towards the NH_D15 as you can tell when the fans are on and there isn't anything other than fans that can fail with it. You may want to check out the performance charts comparing the NH-D15 to the H100i GTX before upgrading to water cooling.

 

[Benjiwenji]

4.7 on a 8370 seems really high to be handled by the 212 EVO. 1.3v also seems really low for that speed. I don't mean to criticize, I just I am just surprised. Well, congratz you've won the silicon lottery.

 

[bote110]

good point redneck will keep that in mind ,will look into the NH-D15 . Always worried about it leaking or the pump going out some do come with a 5 year warranty but with NH-D15 it's only a fan.

 

[Redneck5439]

"4.7 on a 8370 seems really high to be handled by the 212 EVO. 1.3v also seems really low for that speed. I don't mean to criticize, I just I am just surprised. Well, congratz you've won the silicon lottery."

Ok, threw an old monitor from the shop on my rig (down in the shop, going to replace the H100i for NH-D15 today or tomorrow and see how it goes, didn't fell like taking rig back up and hooking it to my gaming monitor) and reset my overclock to 4.7Ghz, this is my saved profile I used with my Hyper 212 EVO. CPU-Z newest build validation:

http://valid.x86.fr/pdfxn4

hope that works right, never tried to post a validation before.
Keep in mind I had 2 Delta 3400rpm fans in a push / pull configuration on my 212 EVO, which I'm sure helped. Its been a long time since I ran it at 4.7Ghz, I knew it was around 1.3V turns out it was 1.33V, which is still amazing. That is why when people make the statement that the FX 8370 is equal to the FX 8350, is equal to the FX 8320, ect... I just smile and say "you have never overclocked all of them before, or you would know that simply isn't true". The FX 8370's superior binning, fine tweaks and better power management make it the best FX processor AMD has produced to this point.

I've gone as far as to benchmark a FX 8350 vs the FX 8370 at the same exact clock speeds (turbo core disabled) and have found that the FX 8370 benchmarks higher than the FX 8350 at the same clock speeds. There are a lot of people on these forums that will say "you get what you pay for" when comparing Intel to AMD, but they will also say that the FX 8350 and FX 8370 are the same processor, AMD just gave one a higher turbo clock and its a total ripoff to pay more for the FX 8370. That isn't true (had they actually used both processors they would know that), the FX 8370 is tweaked to use less power and has slight performance edges clock for clock over the older FX 8350 (granted these advantages aren't huge, but they are there). Couple that with the better binning of the FX 8370 and you have a processor worth the extra money over an FX 8320, or FX 8350.

 

[bote110]

My case will handle a lot more fan config. it's just finding the best fan's to add to it. It came with a 200mmm in the front and a 140mmm in the rear and handles a 120mm or 140mm radiator for Liquid Cooling if I go that rout .

http://www.phanteksusa.com/products/phanteks-enthoo-pro

It is a nice case for my set-up . So let me ask you redneck on the bios where it gives me to set my bios for Power Saving Mode, Normal Mode, and Optimal Mode on the front page can I set it to Optimal Mode? with my CM 212 EVO when I install my cpu just waiting for my Arctic Cooling MX-2 Thermal Compound to come in but with this storm in MA I will not see it till next week.

 

[Redneck5439]

If your going to overclock your FX 8370 its best to enter advanced mode and follow this guide:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1348623/amd-bulldozer-and-piledriver-overclocking-guide-asus-motherboard

Its one of the better guides out there for overclocking FX Piledriver on Asus Sabertooth 990FX motherboard, and will save me a ton of typing. I started my overclocking "career" using a very similar guide and then tweaking the individual settings till I maxed out my overclocks for the particular system and processor I'm overclocking at that time. Every system and every processor overclocks a little differently, however most of the FX 8370s overclock rather similar as they are the highest binned processors and there is a very narrow margin of "chip lottery" that is applied when you get to the binning levels of the 8370.

 

[bote110]

But if I set it to Optimal Mode ain't that simple enough? {is just a little tweak is all I can handle at 56} It's going to take a while to read and fig it out. I really didn't want to go hard core OCing . Thanks for the forum

 

[Redneck5439]

I've never used Asus Optimal Mode, but as I understand it the Optimal Mode acts like an auto overclocker. Its supposed to do a "mild" overclock on your system, however do be advised that anytime you let something do an auto overclock on your system there are risks involved. The primary one I can think of right away is most auto overclockers set the Vcore higher than it would ever realistically need to be to ensure a 100% stable overclock. Therefore you will probably end up having it set way higher than it needs to be which is going to be overvolting it and creating more heat than need be for a relatively mild overclock. I've seen threads where people have been happy with Optimal Mode and used it like a base for manually doing an overclock, and I've also seen threads where people have tried it and can't even get their computer to boot back into bios and had to reset the cmos.

I've never used it as I never let anything auto overclock my system. You can try it if you like, its supposed to give you a "safe" "mild" overclock, but be aware there are risks involved and its always best to manually overclock bios in the advanced settings. That will give you the most optimal overclock at the lowest Vcore.