New Gaming Build & Home Entertainment - AMD 1800X

[Salandar]

Approximate Purchase Date: Within the next month

Budget Range: $1750-$2500 for rig, +$500-$750 for new monitor

System Usage from Most to Least Important:

High-End gaming, in particular I spend a lot of time on Overwatch, Diablo, Starcraft, Terraria, and want to future proof the system for the next 3-5 years.
In addition, I want to download ALL of my Blu-Ray and DVD movies to a hard-drive and be able to use it as a remote storage for a home entertainment system.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes - I want to buy a new monitor and suggestions are welcome

Parts to Upgrade: Entire machine - In particular I want to use the AMD Ryzen 1800X chipset

Do you need to buy OS: Yes - Windows 10 Home

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg or Amazon

Location: Northern Virginia

Parts Preferences: AMD Ryzen, MSI, Corsair, Asus

Overclocking: Maybe - not a huge fan and hoping with the budget I want, I won't need to

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe, but would not prefer to buy 2 high end GPUs

Your Monitor Resolution: I would like to buy top-end monitor solution

Additional Comments: Definitely want a quiet machine, potentially will look at water-cooling for CPU and GPU. Case width is restricted to approx 9", may be able to squeeze a 9.5" wide case in spot. Only want to use AMD Ryzen 1800X

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Current machine is 8 years old, and it's showing it's age.

 

[Hellfire13]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1800X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor ($464.79 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Corsair)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($107.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($111.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($247.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($117.39 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card ($684.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: be quiet! - Silent Base 600 (Black/Orange) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($87.89 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link - TL-WDN4800 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter ($36.88 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC - U2879VF 28.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor ($328.86 @ PCM)
Total: $2458.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-11 00:32 EDT-0400

 

[Salandar]

Thanks, I'll definitely pick through that list and I appreciate the time you spent!

Couple of questions -

For the memory, do you think 16Gb would be enough for both ripping dvds and playing games at the same time? I know that a certain amount of memory and cpu power is required, just not sure how much.

Do you have a suggestion on a DVD/Blu-Ray/4K player - I am thinking of this one when it gets released into the US. Pioneer Ultra HD Blu-Ray

The Wireless Network Adapter - I understand that it will help me have a wireless solution, but I will maintain a wired solution - my router is 2' from my PC. Will that allow me to set-up a second network that my other home devices can connect too for content?

Do you have a suggestion of home entertainment software or will Windows 10 allow me to still use my pc for a 'storage' source of content?

 

[Hellfire13]

Now that you have asked for opinions, here's a few to consider.

>

High-End gaming, in particular I spend a lot of time on Overwatch, Diablo, Starcraft, Terraria, and want to future proof the system for the next 3-5 years.
In addition, I want to download ALL of my Blu-Ray and DVD movies to a hard-drive and be able to use it as a remote storage for a home entertainment system.

None of that requires a Ryzen 7 build. Its inappropriate use of resource. A i7-7700k or a Ryzen 5 is more appropriate for the usage. The high core count of Ryzen 7 will slowdown turbo capacity as well as OC capacity per core thereby alleviating clock limits, which is not good for gaming.

> 16gb is more than enough for your usage. You wont even require that much unless you are using high load apps. 24x7.

> I am not sure about that Blu Ray as its a new unit, but heres what i found interesting in one review.

"One of the peculiarities of playback via AACS2 is that it has to be supported by the whole system, not just certain critical components. This may not be a big problem for consumer electronics (even though it has its peculiarities there as well, for example, a requirement to pair a drive with its host that binds them at time of manufacture that will make lives of people who rip disks harder, but will also make it impossible to replace a failed ODD in a player), but for PCs things are going to get considerably more complicated. The content has to be encrypted using AACS2 throughout the whole data transfer from the optical disc to the decoder (i.e., the GPU for a PC) and then decoded in a secure environment. Since AACS2 mandates the use of secure environment at all times, decryption of Ultra HD Blu-ray content in a PC is now possible only on an iGPU that uses system memory with appropriate regions set aside for this particular task. Unless companies like AMD and NVIDIA invent their own SGX-like technology or manage to support Intel’s extensions in their drivers and by their discrete hardware, it will not be possible to use standalone GPUs for Ultra HD Blu-ray playback despite all their advanced media decoding capabilities."

> The wifi card is for the pc connectivity only as people sometimes find it useful to connect wirelessly, specially if the wire faults or some other similar situation. Good to keep a backup, specially at that price point.

> Usually Windows is very adept in customizing your entertainment, but heres a range of softwares you can delve into... http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/home-theatre-media-center-software/

 

[Salandar]

Thanks, so if I swap out the Ryzen 1800x for a AMD RYZEN 5 1600X things will still humm along? Also thinking about the LG WH16NS40 https://goo.gl/xOvkUo for the blu-ray writer

 

[Hellfire13]

Actually, the 1600x is a better prospect for gaming with less cores, as it will OC more than a chip with more cores. As far as the blu ray player is concerned, just pick up whichever u like. Doesnt make a lot of difference.