Build Advice New gaming PC build.

[p0t3nt1al]

https://viper.patriotmemory.com/products/viper-vp4300lite-pcie-m-2-gen4x4-solid-state-drive

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-7600-non-x/20.html

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor (£173.25 @ NeoComputers)
Storage: *Patriot Viper VP4300 Lite 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£104.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £278.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-09-15 08:21 BST+0100

Thanks for this.

An earlier post recommended the KC3000 model due to its DRAM cache. I don't honestly know what this means but did follow the advice on my pick.

How would this Viper recommendation stack up vs it? Is there any benefit?

 

[Why_Me]

Thanks for this.

An earlier post recommended the KC3000 model due to its DRAM cache. I don't honestly know what this means but did follow the advice on my pick.

How would this Viper recommendation stack up vs it? Is there any benefit?

I was wrong. That Kingston does have DRAM cache.

https://www.kingston.com/en/ssd/kc3000-nvme-m2-solid-state-drive?capacity=2048gb

 

[Lucky_SLS]

Few thoughts:

The Peerless assassin 120 is a huge cooler. The case comes with a rear fan installed. So the optimal fan placement would be fans above the ram and 1 inbetwwen the cooler heatsinks. In this case, the fan will cover the ram. So just go for NON RGB white rams.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-kf560c30bwek2-32

similar SSD model for a bit less:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-sfyrd2000g

Alternate white 7900XT:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...rx-7900-xt-20-gb-video-card-rx7900xt-pgw-20go

Alternate white PSU:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...fied-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-etv850g-w

Enermax Revolution D.F.12 850W PSU Review - Hardware Busters

Hardware Busters - Enermax Revolution D.F.12 850W PSU Review - PSUs

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I am not so sure about the airflow in that case. The GPU will be starved for airflow. Even if you have a bottom intake fan, the fans need to pull fresh air from outside the case through the bottom panel. I dont know how effective it will be.

Alternate case:

https://www.bossecomputers.com/deepcool-ch360-digital-micro-atx-white-case-3430-p.asp

https://computerorbit.com/products/...U-Q8l6iANvdCRM88s_G1wh2323yvehcfyfQoq4PZgwyKI


go for the Hellhound OC if you choose the CH360 case. It will be a tight fit!

Photos of a build with a 320mm GPU:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/b/GhbhP6

 

[p0t3nt1al]

Alternate white 7900XT:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...rx-7900-xt-20-gb-video-card-rx7900xt-pgw-20go

Thank you!
I am finding it quite a minefield to decipher whether the different manufacturers models are significantly differing in performance.

Even on YouTube its not always super clear on the differences.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

I mean looking at this picture, the 320mm GPU length limitation is bollocks. It can clearly accommodate longer GPUs.

https://cdna.pcpartpicker.com/stati...867.2fb79775b2175ff02349142c18858284.1600.jpg

The case length is 428mm. Considering 50mm tolerance for front fans and case bezels, it can still easily accommodate 330mm GPU.

The Asrock with its size advantage manages to be quiet:

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asrock-radeon-rx-7900-xt-phantom-gaming-white/35.html

 

[p0t3nt1al]

Given the Aqua 3 may be a tad small, I am looking at the Aqua 5.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Okinos-AQU...726430289&sprefix=okinos+aqua5,aps,234&sr=8-1

I like the style of this case.
Its small enough to fit on top of my desk without it being a large eyesore.

If anyone has any recommendations of similar cases by different manufacturer I would be open to hearing them

 

[Lucky_SLS]

The CH360 Digital is a regular typical case

Another typical case:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...icroatx-mini-tower-case-d31-mesh-screen-white

Another case like the Aqua 5:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...croatx-mid-tower-case-mag-pano-m100r-pz-white

 

[p0t3nt1al]

Can someone help me understand more about 'transient spikes'.

From the knowledge I have picked up so far, it is my understanding that PSU's with ATX3.0 or 3.1 deal better with transient spikes as they can handle about 50% higher than their max wattage without going crazy. If this is incorrect please correct me.

If my system is estimated to run on 500w, accounting for +50% I would say 750/850w should be good however some places I read suggest much higher wattage PSU's and I don't fully understand why.

If it wasn't ATX3/3.1 then I might understand why, but surely thats what the new ATX versions are designed to handle?

 

[Lucky_SLS]

it is not 50%, its 200%.

The 16 pin connector again needs to be rated for the wattage. This is why most 750W PSU come with a 450W 16 pin connection and 850W and above sport a 600W connection for the GPU. And ATX 3.0 certified means that for a short duration, the 600W connection can give 1200W.

something for you to read:

Best PSU Picks 2024 - Hardware Busters

Hardware Busters - Best PSU Picks 2024 - Best Picks

hwbusters.com

 

[p0t3nt1al]

So here is my breakdown

GPU - 7900 XT (300w)
CPU - 7800x3d (162w) OR 7600x (105w)
Motherboard - Gigabyte Aorus Elite b650m Ice (60w)
Ram - Teamgroup T Force Delta RGB 32gb (29w)
Cooler - Arctic Liquid Freezer III RGB (15w)
Memory - Kingston KC3000 (10w)
Case - Unknown (3 RGB case fams)

At worst I calculate that to be around 600 watts (likely less but lets round up).

If my GPU can have transient spikes of up to double I should account for 900w for my PSU?

 

[FASTRT]

So here is my breakdown

GPU - 7900 XT (300w)
CPU - 7800x3d (162w) OR 7600x (105w)
Motherboard - Gigabyte Aorus Elite b650m Ice (60w)
Ram - Teamgroup T Force Delta RGB 32gb (29w)
Cooler - Arctic Liquid Freezer III RGB (15w)
Memory - Kingston KC3000 (10w)
Case - Unknown (3 RGB case fams)

At worst I calculate that to be around 600 watts (likely less but lets round up).

If my GPU can have transient spikes of up to double I should account for 900w for my PSU?

For this setup, you should install at least 850W and the recommendation would be 1000W. You must calculate the peak loads. AMD GPU will go blank screen when having less power supplied.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

850W will do the job.

 

[p0t3nt1al]

Couple of questions.

When I look on PC part picker for RAM I search for each of the following

32gb
DDR5-6000

The pricing discrepancy between the cheapest and the most expensive is crazy wide and I don't understand why. Are the cheapest ones really that much worse?

 

[logainofhades]

Some of the really cheap kits have terrible timings, so they can be much worse. As long as the ram is DDR5 6000, CL30, and is EXPO compatible, I wouldn't put too much thought in it, unless you are someone that likes to tinker with ram tuning.

 

[p0t3nt1al]

Another question.

I have been doing some research into monitors.

I know its a super important area, but budget won't stretch far for one.

I want it to be 1440p, <1s response time with around 400nits. (I read 400nits brightness is probably a good place to aim for but don't know anything about it).

Can this be found for around £200?

 

[Lucky_SLS]

Another question.

I have been doing some research into monitors.

I know its a super important area, but budget won't stretch far for one.

I want it to be 1440p, <1s response time with around 400nits. (I read 400nits brightness is probably a good place to aim for but don't know anything about it).

Can this be found for around £200?

It is indeed possible:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...000&B=400,4500&sort=price&P=2,11,13&X=0,23790

https://www.tomshardware.com/monitors/gaming-monitors/asrock-pg27qft2a-180-hz-gaming-monitor-review

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[p0t3nt1al]

My current question is simply this.

Is it better to achieve a monitors potential of 144FPS at 1080p, than 60FPS at 1440p.

Someone recently talked to me about how most casual gamers are totally fine at 1080p and a lot of the 'hype' is simply marketing. He did of course acknowledge 1440p is better however there is a considerable cost difference in getting a machine to perform the same output at this level. Is it really worth it for a casual?

I currently play 1080p but my machine can only handle low settings + low FPS. I am thinking if I could get ultra settings super high FPS the jump would be substantial enough and that trying to spend a fortune on a mid/high end 1440p machine is silly.

I play on a 24 inch monitor currently and sit very close to the screen being at a computer desk. Im not sure I need a 27 inch monitor after thinking about it more and therefore - maybe 1080p would be a more sensible choice.

Something like this. (If there are area's I could spend less on I would love to hear about it)
I expect this would thrive at 1080p, and still be able to play 1440p too)

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/KPFsRK

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor (£173.49 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler (£34.99 @ AWD-IT)
Motherboard: ASRock B650M Pro RS WiFi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard (£136.29 @ NeoComputers)
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (1 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (£89.87 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Kingston KC3000 2.048 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£119.49 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire PURE Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card (£423.00 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Deepcool CH370 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£59.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£79.95 @ AWD-IT)
Case Fan: Deepcool FC120 WHITE-3 IN 1 61.91 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack (£30.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Total: £1146.08

 

[Lucky_SLS]

I would suggest you to retain the same cooler, mobo and ram that we suggested before.

The 7800XT and ryzen 7600 can indeed do 1080p ultra at 120+fps. If that is what you want, go for it.

The 7800XT can also handle Medium settings in 1440p.