New graphics card causing "Detecting IDE drives" freeze on boot

[ryan_kerr10]

Hi,

I was wondering if someone could advise me. I have recently purchased a new graphics card (Zotac Geforce GTX 650 Ti AMP Edition) and when I start my system it hangs on the boot screen showing "Detecting IDE drives...". I am also unable to get into BIO Setup by pressing delete as it freezes. At first I thought this may be a hard drive issue, however whenever I plugged my old graphics card in the computer booted up fine. (Old card - Radeon 3650 512MB PCIW 2xDVI)

I managed to install windows 8 onto an old 20GB hard drive with the new graphics card in place, and that installed and was fully operational until I shut it down. So I then put my system back to its original configuration (new graphics card installed) and it froze at same point in boot up. Then I plugged the 20GB drive back in however it also then failed to boot.

My previous graphics card had a passive heatsink (not fan or power attachment) however the new GTX 650 requires its own power supply. My PSU comes with this so I connected it, I have also tried a molex adaptor to see if that makes any difference - it didn't

Does anyone have any idea what the problem might be as I am stumped.
Thanks,
Ryan

Motherboard GA-MA790X-DS4, CPU AMD Pnenom II X4 940, Memory 4GB, PSU Thermaltake W0105RB Toughpower 700Watt ATX Power Supply, HDD x1 IDE 200GB WD and x1 SATA Seagate 320GB

 

[ronintexas]

Looking over your configuration, your PSU should have enough power. The GPU is a bit power hungry - and Thermaltake has issues with ratings.

The one thing I did find, you mobo has ATI video built in, and using NVidia based GPU may result in issues - First thing I would try is with the old GPU in, disable the on-board video (it might say Onboard video or PCIe - put it to PCIe as primary then), save the configuration, then power down before booting. Remove the old GPU, and insert the new one and see if it boots.

 

[ryan_kerr10]

Hi,

Thanks for the reply. Unfortuantely my motherboard does not have an onboard graphics card. There are not display out adaptors built into the motherboard on the backplate. I had to purchase a PCIe Graphics Card previous to get video.

Do you have any advice with regards to PSUs? As it was managing to boot up to BIOS and showing a video output, I thought the GPU was receiving power. Is this not the case, do you think it requires more and would you reccommend trying to replace the PSU?

Thanks,
Ryan

 

[ronintexas]

It may have enough power for the mobo/GPU, but not the drives. I only use Seasonic, Corsair or Antec - that isn't to say that there are other reliable brands out there....these are just the ones I use.

My favorite that would be good for your build:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006

This is a great 750W power supply.

 

[ryan_kerr10]

Thanks again for the reply. Do you think 750W is my reccommended level? Could I get away with a lower wattage - I'm not a hard core game? I ask because I'm trying to save some money as this PSU upgrade is an unforseen added cost to the GPU. If so do you have any other lower-end reccommendations. I appreciate the help.

Thanks,
Ryan

 

[ryan_kerr10]

More information. I removed both hard drives and replaced with a new 1TB SATA Seagate drive. This made no change and was hanging on boot at "Detecting IDE drives...". I then unplugged one of my case fans from the motherboard to lower power consumption - reset and managed to get past the "Detecting IDE drives..." bit. However then computer then cuts out and resets. Is this definitely suggestive of a PSU issue? Could I get away with the Corsair TX650 650W instead of the TX750 750W?

Thanks,
Ryan

 

[ronintexas]

Try this link:

http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

Fill in the items you have, and run the calculation. They recommend +10% over the load. I use this calculator often....works great.

 

[ryan_kerr10]

Entered my details into that website. It states minimum PSU 495W, Recommended 545W. I am thinking og going for a 650W Edition of the Corsair you should me before

- http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00934CPCA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

This sound acceptable? Thanks for the help.
Ryan

 

[Mousemonkey]

Have you tried starting the PC with your card in the secondary slot? Sounds odd I know but what have you got to lose?

 

[ryan_kerr10]

Yeah had that thought myself, unfortunately that didn't work.

 

[ronintexas]

The 650 should work fine - should be more than enough power.

 

[ryan_kerr10]

Okay, so....the new PSU didn't help fix the plroblem. I've no other thoughts to what is causing the problem - motherboard is working fine. Do you think the graphics card could be defective?

Thanks,
Ryan

 

[ronintexas]

Since the graphics card is new to the system - it could be. Do you have another graphics card to test with?

 

[ryan_kerr10]

Yes, I have got the Radeon HD 3650 512MB GPU that I am replacing. When I connect that windows boots up perfectly fine and no freezing on the BIOS. I have installed a new hard drive to see if that was causing the problem, and a new PSU - both no change. I know that the Processor, Motherboard and Memory are fully operational.

This makes me think that the Graphics Card is the problem. Would that be your thought process?

 

[ronintexas]

That definitely sounds like it.