New GTX 670 not performing as expected..

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Ok, so I just bought myself a nice new shiny GTX 670. ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130782 ) it's not quite performing as I expected it would. It came with borderlands 2, so blahblah, played that for a while, downloaded some f2p games I used to lag on a little, they all worked great, 120+fps.. but then I got really deep into the story for bl2, more stuff started happening, etc. In really PhysX intensive situations it becomes really laggy. (saw 31fps once, which I used to think was really playable, but now even 40fps is kind of laggy to my eye) and that's just unacceptable. I turned the settings down A bit. AA down to 8 instead of 16, render distance down from ultra high to high, and turned like a few random settings from high to medium.. and it made literally 0 difference. just walking around at max settings I was getting 70-80fps, but as soon as anything happened, BAM 40-30 fps. really annoying. Now with the lower settings, its the same. even tried turning everything to minimum/off/720p, and I barely even saw 100fps idling.
Ok, borderlands 2 is pretty intensive, what with PhysX and what not running off the gpu (My cpu is an i7 3770k if anyone was wandering. also I'm not sure weather or not hyperthreading is enabled [pretty sure it was by default] if that makes any diff), SO. time to test some other more demanding games. I'm a cheapass and refuse to buy a game just to test my graphics card, so I downloaded planetside 2, expecting steady 60fps no matter what. Planetside 2 set to everything maxed, 6000 render, everything on as high as it can be, motion blur and all the other goodies, barely touches 50fps. when I'm 100% idle looking right at the sky where there's nothing to render I barely see the upper side of 60. i think, WTF? oh well, I'm sure it looks fine on lower settings (which it does) so i turned the render down to 4000, everything to medium, turned motion blur off (</3 R.I.P.) and made sure shadow detail was LOW. still barely saw the upper side of 60 fps. I've even seen it as low as 20-25 when there is a huge firefight, like 20v20 infantry and stuff. Did I get a bad card or was I just expecting too much? (Sorry I don't have any significant games like BF3 or Crysis 2 to test :c) I'm really worried xD neweggs 30 day return thing still isn't up, so if something IS wrong, I'd like to know.

EDIT: 1: sorry for wall of text
2: IDK how to look at gpu usage, but I know I overclocked it about 150-200 mhx in evga precision-x, didnt touch the voltage
3: cpu usage stays around 60% when in game, talking on skype, and browsing web, so I'm ok there. CPU is OC'd to 4.0 on stock cooler, NEVER hits 55C.
4: I kinda glanced at temps here and there and never say anything more than 50-60c even when I had like planetside 2, skype, firefox, evga precision-x, my cpu temp reader, and steam running all at once. so nothing seems to be wrong there. I'm most worried that turning the settings down didn't help/the random 25fps drops in ps2. (not down by 25, but down TO 20-25)
 
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This happened to me with my 560 Ti. I just played it for a bit ( like 2-3 weeks ) and it got better as I played. I think that's the problem. It may also be from wrong OC settings, but this is my advice.
 
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ok, so. I went into bios, hyperthreading was disabled, also went ahead and put my cpu back to 3.5GHZ, just to make sure. went into EVGA precision-x and spammed default... I'm gonna reboot and test in game.
 
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Yeah I had the exact same thing, as my card came pre-OCed to the max, it just took a bit to break into. If your warranty is almost done, and you still don't have it fixed, just trade it back in and see if another card works. I have no idea why, but NVIDIA cards that are OCed need time.
 
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I refuse to turn settings down in games as simple as borderlands 2 and planetside 2 on an i7 and a 670. I should be maxing these out with no prob. and as I said turning down the settings doesn't really help all that much. (Plus borderlands 2 without physx is like a science fair without paper mache volcanoes.)'

Well anyways, I'm back, with more problems. Before I start any of this my monitor is: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236174 And my 670 is: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130782

Now, onto problems.
I'll copy paste the skype messages I sent to my friend about it, as they're kinda hard to describe and I'm not sure the technical jargan for any of this problems.:

it sends like
flickery lines across the screen with no color

Now as of earlier I THOUGHT it only did this in game but it's most visible when its against dark colors, and my wallpaper is really bright green, so I kinda figure I just didn't notice it. I just went into pain and made the entire screen back with grey around the edges and yeah, it does it then too, and even now looking down at the dark grey section on this website to select your region I can see it. its like flickering lines that move up and down the screen, like you see on old antenna TV. Hard to describe. also the previous fps
and as described in my message, they have no color. they're not like white, they just look.. off from the color behind them. these are the questions I have:
1: Is it my gpu or monitor? How do I test it? I have another monitor but its like 18' and not 1920x1080 (some weird res like 1650x) and I really don't wanna use that. I hate glossy. Also on this monitor all the whites look tinted slightly orange. I don't have any other GPU's. I MIGHT have access to my friends 7770, but, I dunno.
2: Could it possibly be because I couldn't find any wires that came with my GPU so I hooked my monitor from dual dvi video to vga? (white to blue)
3: HOW DO I TEST MY THEORIES XDD
4: Would it be reasonable to RMA it or simply return it for the 379.99 and buy a 7970? (I do really like PhysX in boderlands 2 and planned on buying the new alien game just for kicks, but its not a must have.)
5: Help? Really unhappy. I guess that's what I get for buying a 150$ monitor to guy with a 1250$ system. Also system specs are:

CPU: i7 3770k
GPU: EVGA GTX 670
MOBO: ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 LGA1155
RAM: 16GB G.Skill Sniper 1600mhz 9-9-9-24
HDD: WD Blue 750GB 7200RPM Drive (very happy with this btw, recording to it while playing from it with only like 5-7 fps drop, using fraps ofc)
PSU: Corsair CX 750M (also, my stuff is kinda jerry rigged, I couldn't find any power connectors dedicated to gpu or anything of the sort, so I just picked 2 6 pins and plugged them in on the psu wherever they fit xc)
CASE: not that it matters, but, Corsair C70 White. looks very nice.

Any suggestions? If I don't get some answers I'll make a new thread, just didn't want to be super spammy. TY very much.

EDIT: And regarding returning it, should I wait for like a new HD 8950 or a 770 and just hold out on IG 4000 on my cpu till then? I'm totally used to low settings and 20fps, so i should be fine. Would this be reasonable or? I DID feel kinda bad about buying a 670 right before the new cards came out.


 
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You don't need the newest things to play the newest games. I wouldn't recommend getting the newer cards and CPUs when they come out. Just because they are new, doesn't mean they are something you should get. They will be expensive and I don't see the need of upgrading. Once again, you should try and get a refund or get a new one just to see if it was maybe damage that caused this problem. Your card and CPU could max out Crysis 3, and that's the biggest game right now, graphics wise. See if you can get a return.
 
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recommended specs for crysis 3 at max is 3770k and a 690 xD I'll probs play on medium.

THE MAIN QUESTION I NEED ANSWERED Is it my monitor or my 670? 😛 the flickering is more annoying, I can stand playing on low settings. (the way its going I don't see my system playing bf3 and even pulling 40fps, which is the main reason I bought this damned thing. BTW playable mark for fps IMO is 45. so.)

EDIT: I do plan on buying an 800 series card if/when they come out, because if things upgrade at the rate they upgraded from 570 to 670 (~50%) then an 880/2 generations down the road should be 100% faster than my card, if my system will even be compatible. maybe even getting another 670 when they're like 250$. 😛
DOUBLE EDIT:
those recommended specs were for the very poorly optimized alpha, though
TRIPLE EDIT YEAA: Also I'm considering returning it and getting a 680, just so I can record at max settings, and for a little fps boost. VERY dissapointed, really impressed with my friends little 7770 though.
 
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http://www.joystiq.com/2012/12/03/crysis-3-system-requirements-published-pcs-everywhere-wince/

You'll be playing near max. If you OC you can get max. How many Hz is your monitor? Can you tell me the exact name and brand?
 
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I linked to my monitor in my first comment. Just in case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236174
I overclocked THIS 670 200mhz and my cpu to 4.2 and boosted up like 2 fps. :c
 
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So you didn't use HDMI? Why?

Get an HDMI cable. I've seen people having HUGE improvements using it instead of that VGA crap.
 
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Well gimme a minute or two to fish around in my box of crap that came with my order to see if I have any other cables. I'll post here when I'm reconnecting or rebooting or anything so I'm still here checking and responding. KEEP THE HELP COMING ;-;
 
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You should ALWAYS have an HDMI cable. You never know. I have like 4.
 
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Yeah since you have a 670, which has a built in 1 HDMI, and your monitor has an HDMI, you just need a double ended cable. I recommend getting the " middle " expensive one. Don't get the cheapest one imo. The cheaper ones are the poop ones. Key words to look for are " high speed ", " gold plated " and 1080p.
 
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