New Guy in Town for Gaming/Streaming/Editing PC

[xx.project.zero]

Hello,

I'm new to the PC building world and I am here to learn as much as I can as well as build my very first PC. I'm a competitive PvP gamer on Ps4 Destiny, Xbox One Halo 5, and looking to branch out to PC for some Overwatch and potentially jump on Destiny 2 there. I sometimes play League of Legends on PC as well but would like to be able to play other games on Steam that my laptop cannot handle. I'd like to reach for 1440p @ 144 Hz/FPS with a budget of $1500 +/- $100 I'd say. This doesn't include peripherals. I want something that can handle hours of gaming, live twitch streaming and editing as my wife is an avid adobe photoshop and illustrator user.

My buddy recommended a build which I'll post below but I want to make sure I have a well built PC to handle what I want. I would also like a capture card that will record the entire thing if possible. What kind of memory am I looking at for this? Please help me as I don't want to buy the incorrect components for a gaming build that may be used for work with programs such as MATLAB, LabView, Solidworks, Visio, Nx, etc.

However,
The build has some notes and it worries me as seen below. How can I get a fully compatible intel build?

Compatibility Notes
The motherboard M.2 slot #1 shares bandwidth with SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports. When the M.2 slot is populated, two SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports are disabled.
The motherboard M.2 slot #2 shares bandwidth with SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports. When the M.2 slot is populated, two SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports are disabled.

Recommended:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($358.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - R1 Universal 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($93.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($158.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - XPG 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($94.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB AMP! Edition Video Card ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair - 270R ATX Mid Tower Case ($68.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($97.70 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1577.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-07 15:18 EST-0500

 

[vapour]

1080 kind of not enough to handle 1440p 144 fps ultra, and considering all your productivity work + streaming, 2700x is a better fit
For the question, no, the mb has ~6 sata and occupy 2 still leaves you 4, 1 hdd and 1 ssd, still 2 left.

 

[xx.project.zero]

Thanks for letting me know about the motherboard. It really worried me. Quick question if I wanted to keep moving forward with Intel. Should I bump the graphics card to a 1080 Ti if I wanted to handle 1440p 144 FPS at Ultra? Or would an AMD build be more successful with hitting the specs I want?

I would settle for 1080p @ 144 FPS if need be.

 

[vapour]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor ($309.89 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - X470 Master SLI/AC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($52.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($82.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11 GB AMP Edition Video Card ($724.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($62.19 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($73.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1612.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-07 15:38 EST-0500

small ssd is for OS and software caching, 500 gb ssd is only for material.

 

[vapour]

Comparison: https://www.techspot.com/review/1655-core-i7-8700k-vs-ryzen-7-2700x/page8.html

To me, 2700X is no-brainer for its better CPU multicore performance. I9-9900k will beat 2700X but way out of your budget.

 

[maddogfargo]

- Your friend's 8700k build is very good for gaming and will perform well with most of your productivity apps.
- A 2700x build will be right behind it, so close it doesn't really matter. But one thing the 2700x will do better is handle streaming and gaming at the same time.
- For League and Overwatch a GTX 1080 will be fine. Easily capable of 100+ FPS. Destiny 2 will be a bit of a challenge but still 60+ FPS.
- Don't waste money on M.2 or NVME. They aren't much faster than a standard 2.5" SSD under realistic workloads.

 

[JamesSneed]

You will want to go to G.Skills site and find out how tall that memory is then check on Cryorgs site if the cooler can handle that memory height. It likely will just something to verify since the memory is a bit tall and the cooler sits a bit low.

The build looks pretty solid. Just realize you will be turning settings down in Overwatch just a bit to hit 144Hz at 1440p.

The 9700K that just came out is about 12% faster than the 8700K in photoshop.
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Photoshop-CC-2018-Core-i7-9700K-i9-9900K-Performance-1248/#Arethe9thGenIntelCoreProcessorsgoodforPhotoshop?

 

[xx.project.zero]

Comparison: https://www.techspot.com/review/1655-core-i7-8700k-vs-ryzen-7-2700x/page8.html

To me, 2700X is no-brainer for its better CPU multicore performance. I9-9900k will beat 2700X but way out of your budget.

How much would I have to open up my budget for in order to take on an I9-9900k build?

 

[vapour]

+~$500, also 9900k is out of stock at the moment.

 

[xx.project.zero]

+~$500, also 9900k is out of stock at the moment.

Now I'm wondering if I should hold off just a bit longer until it's in stock. What would you recommend for a 9900k build?

 

[vapour]

only swap out cpu/cooler/mb:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H150i PRO 47.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z390 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($168.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $328.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-08 10:57 EST-0500

I9-9900k ~$600

 

[xx.project.zero]

only swap out cpu/cooler/mb:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H150i PRO 47.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z390 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($168.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $328.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-08 10:57 EST-0500

I9-9900k ~$600

Thanks! Would the remaining parts be filled with your suggested AMD build parts or the recommended Intel build my buddy provided?

 

[vapour]

I meant swap out my AMD build

 

[JamesSneed]

+~$500, also 9900k is out of stock at the moment.

Now I'm wondering if I should hold off just a bit longer until it's in stock. What would you recommend for a 9900k build?

I would recommend it if you don't mind spending the money. It will be better for all the other highly threaded stuff you mentioned like MATLAB, Photoshop, Solidworks,, and Illustrator. The 9800K would also be pretty decent as well.

 

[xx.project.zero]

+~$500, also 9900k is out of stock at the moment.

Now I'm wondering if I should hold off just a bit longer until it's in stock. What would you recommend for a 9900k build?

I would recommend it if you don't mind spending the money. It will be better for all the other highly threaded stuff you mentioned like MATLAB, Photoshop, Solidworks,, and Illustrator. The 9800K would also be pretty decent as well.

Will the 9900k outperform the 2700x come to gaming and streaming simultaneously? I'm in no rush for the build. I was thinking about purchasing components come Black Friday / Cyber Monday if there are any deals.

 

[vapour]

+~$500, also 9900k is out of stock at the moment.

Now I'm wondering if I should hold off just a bit longer until it's in stock. What would you recommend for a 9900k build?

I would recommend it if you don't mind spending the money. It will be better for all the other highly threaded stuff you mentioned like MATLAB, Photoshop, Solidworks,, and Illustrator. The 9800K would also be pretty decent as well.

Will the 9900k outperform the 2700x come to gaming and streaming simultaneously? I'm in no rush for the build. I was thinking about purchasing components come Black Friday / Cyber Monday if there are any deals.

Yes, due to same cores/threads but better single core performance. You can google a bunch of benchmarks. However, I don't think it worth the huge price diff imo.

 

[JamesSneed]

Yes the 9900K is better but the 9700K fares pretty darn well except in the heavily threaded applications.

TH just put out a review that I think is exactly what you are wanting to know as it covers productivity and gaming for all the CPU's you are thinking about:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ryzen-7-vs-core-i7-9700k,38046.html