New MacBook Pros are Cheaper, Faster, Pro-er

[dante01010]

yes you can remove Mac os but doesn't make sense, so why do you want a Mac ?.

 

[chaohsiangchen]

[citation][nom]dante01010[/nom]yes you can remove Mac os but doesn't make sense, so why do you want a Mac ?.[/citation]

He just has $1500 that he wants to burn. Other than that, it doesn't make any sense. I had the urge the burn money for things I don't need as well, at least I admit that this impulsive illogical decision is made to make me feel better, not make me better financially.

 

[cruiseoveride]

[citation][nom]chripuck[/nom]Additionally... "light up logo?" Seriously? That's a selling point? A white plastic covered cutout with a LED behind it is a selling point? If that doesn't scream I'm doing this because I want people to think I'm cool then I dont know what does.[/citation]
Dude, he owns an Apple. What do you think??

 

[option350z]

You still have to pay the Apple Tax. And in all honesty, I rather burn 1300 on a Asus G50VT than a Macbook.

 

[1pp1k10k4m1]

@ Marcus Yam, another change to the Macbook Pro models is that now they all take up to 8GB of RAM, whereas only the 17" model did before. This is a definite bonus i think.

 

[croc]

[citation][nom]spanky deluxe[/nom]I'd be pretty impressed if you can build an octo core workstation class machine for $1000. Although I'm pissed off at Apple for raising their profit margins by $1000 on their Mac Pros, they're still comparatively priced to equivalent Dell workstations since Dell followed suit. For the first time though, the Mac Pros are actually more expensive which is a shame.Can you tell me where to buy the Nehalem CPUs, workstation motherboard and ECC memory for $1000?[/citation]

I'd be pretty impressed if you could point me to an Apple workstation for $1000... Or a CPU upgrade on an Apple from a 4 core to two 4 cores for even close to that price. How about 4 GB more RAM on an Apple for only $1000....

 

[midnightgun]

Although I don't agree with some of apples pricing and how they configured mac pro's...

People seriously need to stop comparing a mac pro to a basic i7 ina cheap case...

like seriously... Stop.

 

[1pp1k10k4m1]

Who is it that is arguing that Macs aren't more expensive? That's the beautiful thing about a free market economy, people can spend their money on what they WANT. If you don't WANT to pay the price for a Mac, then don't buy one. If you are okay with it and like the OS, then buy one. The argument that we should bash Macs because they are more expensive is simply old, overplayed, has already been acknowledged as a general rule of thumb, and in some cases isn't true. If you can put together a better computer for less money and run an OS (legally) that you want then just do it, leave the other people alone who are willing to pay the "Apple tax".

There is some research that states (http://news.cnet.com/2100-1040-943519.html) that Mac users are better educated and make more money. No one brings that up over and over again.

I personally use both, for different tasks. I love both, for different reasons. I do hate Vista however, I stuck with XP, 7 show promise, but so does Snow Leopard. The ridiculous part seems to be that almost everyone here has given into the "this one is better" marketing, and allowing Microsoft and Apple to play you all off each other. Just like what you like, use what you like best and let the other people be. Let them make their own decision, its okay, its not some kind of moral dilemma. Its a computer, that at the end of the day essentially does the same thing a somewhat different way. Let it go on this on.

 

[rooseveltdon]

[citation][nom]midnightgun[/nom]Although I don't agree with some of apples pricing and how they configured mac pro's...People seriously need to stop comparing a mac pro to a basic i7 ina cheap case...like seriously... Stop.[/citation]

A basic i7 rig in a cheap case? ummm what case could i get in a 2500 dollar rig???ummm last i checked high end lian li cases were anything but cheap.

 

[midnightgun]

[citation][nom]rooseveltdon[/nom]A basic i7 rig in a cheap case? ummm what case could i get in a 2500 dollar rig???ummm last i checked high end lian li cases were anything but cheap.[/citation]

Do you even know what i am referring to...

 

[Spanky Deluxe]

[citation][nom]croc[/nom]I'd be pretty impressed if you could point me to an Apple workstation for $1000... Or a CPU upgrade on an Apple from a 4 core to two 4 cores for even close to that price. How about 4 GB more RAM on an Apple for only $1000....[/citation]

You're completely missing the point. No manufacturer is offering a Nehalem based workstation for $1000. You obviously didn't read the previous comments. Someone said they built an equivalent machine to a $3000 Mac Pro for $1000.

[citation][nom]rooseveltdon[/nom]A basic i7 rig in a cheap case? ummm what case could i get in a 2500 dollar rig???ummm last i checked high end lian li cases were anything but cheap.[/citation]

You're missing the point. An i7 rig, even in a high end lian li case, is not comparable to a Mac Pro. Its not workstation class. Unless you're talking Nehalem Xeons, workstation motherboard and ECC memory then it doesn't compare. I'm not saying the $2500 Mac Pro is a good price, far from it - its far more than the competition. The Octo core Mac Pros are priced very similarly to the competition though. Apple doesn't offer a system that is comparable to an i7 rig. They don't have a mid to high end consumer desktop computer without a display. They have consumer all-in-ones and an entry level consumer machine.

 

[deltatux]

I would still pay the "premium" for a sounder system structure and that multitouch trackpad and the customer service than a cheap regular laptop that starts falling apart after 2 years of use.

I don't think the lower-end Macs are expensive ... but the higher end ones, yes I agree, most people won't be able to afford it no matter the specs.

 

[antilycus]

as a user of both, I mistakenly purchased a Dual Powermac G4. It was awesome, until 1 month later, it was EXTREMELY outdated. I will NEVER purchase another APPLE product again, including music from iTunes.

 

[tipoo]

As a comparison Sony just released a 13" SR with an ATI 4570, which almost equals a 9600 GT. Twice as fast as the 9400M the Mac users are praising.

So much for 9 months of evolution. OpenCL is an open standard which AMD supports strongly, so thats no excuse either.

 

[rooseveltdon]

[citation][nom]deltatux[/nom]I would still pay the "premium" for a sounder system structure and that multitouch trackpad and the customer service than a cheap regular laptop that starts falling apart after 2 years of use.I don't think the lower-end Macs are expensive ... but the higher end ones, yes I agree, most people won't be able to afford it no matter the specs.[/citation]
lol you are comparing cheap wal mart lap tops to high end product,when you compre other high end offerings then you see the real difference, high end lenovos last longer,are built better and come with superior specs, alienware and sager notebooks completely desroy macs in terms of power and performance and even highend HP have a lot to like and i can get all these products for less than the starting price of a mac that comes with a lot less,the only reason one would want a mac is OSX and to me OSX is not worth an extra 500 dollars on the price

 

[compulsionnra]

Non-removable battery? Epic Fail.

 

[bakaneko]

chaohsiangchen & dante01010

 

[bakaneko]

[citation][nom]dante01010[/nom]yes you can remove Mac os but doesn't make sense, so why do you want a Mac ?.[/citation]
simple, because MacOS doesn't make any sense to me?

[citation][nom]chaohsiangchen[/nom]He just has $1500 that he wants to burn. Other than that, it doesn't make any sense. I had the urge the burn money for things I don't need as well, at least I admit that this impulsive illogical decision is made to make me feel better, not make me better financially.[/citation]
if it's going to cost me the same if i were to get a laptop of the same spec with a MBP and at the same price, why wouldn't i get the MBP? just ditch macos and install something i enjoyed using.

 

[Gutbop]

[citation][nom]chripuck[/nom]If I'm a common end user such as my friend who wants a powerful computer to work on do I need to pay $3000 for it?Of course my PC doesn't have the exact same specs as the Mac Pro, but it is core i7, it does have 6 gigs of ram, it does have over a TB of harddrive space and get this... it actually has a GTX 260 in it instead of those pathetic GTS 120's... which you can SLI for a couple of hundred bucks.Nobody disputes that Mac's make great workstations for graphic artists, but how many people that walk into the mac store who want a desktop that is not an all in one are graphic artists?[/citation]

I'll dispute it. My wife bought a Mac Pro a few years back (dual dual-core Xeons) for around $3,000 with a 7300GS graphics card. I just put together a core i7 920 rig with a gtx 260 for around $1400. My computer abosolutely owns hers at graphics work, and she's the graphics artist. It helps that mine is overclocked to 3.4GHz, but try overclocking a Xeon on a Mac. I know that hers is old, and you can now buy Octo-core Mac Pros but graphic design programs rarely use more than 4 cores anyway, let alone 8 cores.

 

[Spanky Deluxe]

[citation][nom]Gutbop[/nom]I'll dispute it. My wife bought a Mac Pro a few years back (dual dual-core Xeons) for around $3,000 with a 7300GS graphics card. I just put together a core i7 920 rig with a gtx 260 for around $1400. My computer abosolutely owns hers at graphics work, and she's the graphics artist. It helps that mine is overclocked to 3.4GHz, but try overclocking a Xeon on a Mac. I know that hers is old, and you can now buy Octo-core Mac Pros but graphic design programs rarely use more than 4 cores anyway, let alone 8 cores.[/citation]

You're comparing a modern computer to a three year old one? Hardly a fair fight. True though, Mac Pros aren't really suited for graphics professionals who don't really need the ECC memory checking and octo cores. a 24" iMac or a MacBook Pro and a 30" ACD are more suited for graphics artists. Mac Pros are more suited for computationally intensive work such as film editing, complicated design, scientific research etc. That's why they use workstation class hardware.

Going back to the MacBook Pros. Turns out the new 15" MacBook Pro now gets 8 hours of battery life under real world usage. That's surely worth a fair chunk.