New PC build £700 budget

[nawab.mir14]

I've been out of the loop for a good 5 years so Im not sure whats the best bang for your buck nowadays so I was wondering if anyone could suggest a good [Gaming] PC (not incl monitor) around £700? Im from the UK so amazon seems like the best parts vendor.

The old system was an i5 3570, AMD 7870 that I built for around £500 but it broke recently (weird crashes where screen would be a random colour, now it turns on but no USB power or visual display output) so not looking to use any old parts. If anyone knows what could be wrong with this system aswell, it would be greatly appreciated.

Im going to university to study CompSci so 6 cores may be preferred?

A few questions:
How do the i5s compare to AMD's new competing chips?
What are the classic, cheap high performance GPUs nowadays? (The old GTX X70s, AMD X870s equivalents)?

Thank you so much!

 

[Hellfire13]

Intel...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor (£161.96 @ PC World Business)
Motherboard: MSI - B360M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£65.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot - Viper Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory (£77.56 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£72.86 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GT OCV1 Video Card (£239.99 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£36.10 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£49.99 @ Corsair UK)
Total: £704.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-01 19:52 BST+0100



AMD...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£149.97 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: MSI - B450M PRO-VDH Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£67.97 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£93.59 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£72.86 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 580 4GB Dual Video Card (£237.95 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£36.10 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£49.99 @ Corsair UK)
Total: £708.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-01 19:55 BST+0100



If gaming is a higher priority, then Intel would be a better choice. AMD is not too far behind in gaming, but shines more in mixed workload and multitasking.

 

[nawab.mir14]

Intel...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor (£161.96 @ PC World Business)
Motherboard: MSI - B360M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£65.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot - Viper Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory (£77.56 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£72.86 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GT OCV1 Video Card (£239.99 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£36.10 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£49.99 @ Corsair UK)
Total: £704.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-01 19:52 BST+0100



AMD...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£149.97 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: MSI - B450M PRO-VDH Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£67.97 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£93.59 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£72.86 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 580 4GB Dual Video Card (£237.95 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£36.10 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£49.99 @ Corsair UK)
Total: £708.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-01 19:55 BST+0100



If gaming is a higher priority, then Intel would be a better choice. AMD is not too far behind in gaming, but shines more in mixed workload and multitasking.

Thank you so much. I was just wondering how big the performance gap when it came to gaming was with these systems? Only a couple of frames? Because I might be using it for some intense programs, and I sometimes I have a lot of chrome and applications open (I get this is more of a RAM thing).

Also is 450W really enough? Any suggestions for a 600W supply? Thanks

 

[Hellfire13]

Intel...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor (£161.96 @ PC World Business)
Motherboard: MSI - B360M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£65.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot - Viper Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory (£77.56 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£72.86 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GT OCV1 Video Card (£239.99 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£36.10 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£49.99 @ Corsair UK)
Total: £704.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-01 19:52 BST+0100



AMD...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£149.97 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: MSI - B450M PRO-VDH Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£67.97 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£93.59 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£72.86 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 580 4GB Dual Video Card (£237.95 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£36.10 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£49.99 @ Corsair UK)
Total: £708.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-01 19:55 BST+0100



If gaming is a higher priority, then Intel would be a better choice. AMD is not too far behind in gaming, but shines more in mixed workload and multitasking.

Thank you so much. I was just wondering how big the performance gap when it came to gaming was with these systems? Only a couple of frames? Because I might be using it for some intense programs, and I sometimes I have a lot of chrome and applications open (I get this is more of a RAM thing).

Also is 450W really enough? Any suggestions for a 600W supply? Thanks

The performance gap is not too much. Couple of frames here and there... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS-t2Z0Wc3I

For your use case, Ryzen would be more appropriate for its 12 threads. Intense programs usually scale well to multiple threads. RAM is definitely a factor, but the processor matters too.

The power draw is around the 350w ballpark, if you check the top right corner of the build page. So you would still have more than 100w of headroom even after OCing. But if you want to play safe and add more juice, this is a bigger and better quality unit...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£74.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £74.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-01 20:26 BST+0100

 

[nawab.mir14]

Intel...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor (£161.96 @ PC World Business)
Motherboard: MSI - B360M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£65.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot - Viper Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory (£77.56 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£72.86 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GT OCV1 Video Card (£239.99 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£36.10 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£49.99 @ Corsair UK)
Total: £704.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-01 19:52 BST+0100



AMD...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£149.97 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: MSI - B450M PRO-VDH Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£67.97 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£93.59 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£72.86 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 580 4GB Dual Video Card (£237.95 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£36.10 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£49.99 @ Corsair UK)
Total: £708.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-01 19:55 BST+0100



If gaming is a higher priority, then Intel would be a better choice. AMD is not too far behind in gaming, but shines more in mixed workload and multitasking.

Intel...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor (£161.96 @ PC World Business)
Motherboard: MSI - B360M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£65.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot - Viper Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory (£77.56 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£72.86 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GT OCV1 Video Card (£239.99 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£36.10 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£49.99 @ Corsair UK)
Total: £704.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-01 19:52 BST+0100



AMD...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£149.97 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: MSI - B450M PRO-VDH Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£67.97 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£93.59 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£72.86 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 580 4GB Dual Video Card (£237.95 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£36.10 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£49.99 @ Corsair UK)
Total: £708.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-01 19:55 BST+0100



If gaming is a higher priority, then Intel would be a better choice. AMD is not too far behind in gaming, but shines more in mixed workload and multitasking.

Thank you so much. I was just wondering how big the performance gap when it came to gaming was with these systems? Only a couple of frames? Because I might be using it for some intense programs, and I sometimes I have a lot of chrome and applications open (I get this is more of a RAM thing).

Also is 450W really enough? Any suggestions for a 600W supply? Thanks

The performance gap is not too much. Couple of frames here and there... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS-t2Z0Wc3I

For your use case, Ryzen would be more appropriate for its 12 threads. Intense programs usually scale well to multiple threads. RAM is definitely a factor, but the processor matters too.

The power draw is around the 350w ballpark, if you check the top right corner of the build page. So you would still have more than 100w of headroom even after OCing. But if you want to play safe and add more juice, this is a bigger and better quality unit...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£74.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £74.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-01 20:26 BST+0100

Thanks, but also why not a GTX 1060 with the AMD build?

 

[Hellfire13]

They are both equal cards. You can choose either.