Question New PC Build - Looking for suggestions

[siam85]

Hello everyone, I recently just moved to Helsinki, Finland. One of my friend who lives here want to build a new PC to play games like COD Warzone, Battlefield, mostly shooting games and also online multiplayer games. I'm trying to build a PC with a monitor for him within his budget; his budget is around 1200 euros.

So far, this is what I got:

Processor: Intel Core i7-12700KF, LGA1700, 3.60 GHz, 25MB, Boxed
Link: https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Sho...l-core-i7-12700kf-lga1700-3-60-ghz-25mb-boxed

CPU Cooler: Thermaltake UX200 ARGB Lighting CPU Cooler
Link: https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Sho...-argb-lighting-cpu-cooler-prosessorijaahdytin

Motherboard: ASRock B660M Pro RS, mATX-emolevy
Link: https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Show/179017/b660m-pro-rs/asrock-b660m-pro-rs-matx-emolevy

SSD: Kingston 2TB NV2 PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD-levy, M.2 2280, 3500/2800 MB/s
Link: https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Sho...cie-4-0-nvme-ssd-levy-m-2-2280-3500-2800-mb-s

RAM: Kingston 16GB (2 x 8GB) FURY Beast DDR5 RGB, 5600MHz, CL36, 1.25V, musta
Link: https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Sho...-fury-beast-ddr5-rgb-5600mhz-cl36-1-25v-musta

Casing: Phanteks XT Pro Ultra - Black, midi tower case with window, black
Link: https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Sho...ltra-black-ikkunallinen-miditornikotelo-musta

PSU: Thermaltake 650W Smart BM3 Bronze - TT Premium Edition, semimodulaarinen ATX-virtalähde, 80 Plus Bronze
Link: https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Sho...ulaarinen-atx-virtalahde-80-plus-bronze-musta

GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3060 WINDFORCE OC (LHR) graphics card, 12GB GDDR6
Link: https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Sho...3060-windforce-oc-lhr-naytonohjain-12gb-gddr6

Monitor: LG 23,8" UltraGear 24GN60R-B, 144Hz Full HD -pelimonitori
Link: https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Sho...ar-24gn60r-b-144hz-full-hd-pelimonitori-musta

This should be the full package; feel free to point it out if I'm missing something.

Please do mention if this build can cause any bottlenecks.​

 

[logainofhades]

Went a bit over 1200, but you get better a better graphics card, and more ram.


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor (€199.90 @ Proshop)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (€36.90 @ Datatronic)
Motherboard: ASRock B760 Pro RS/D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€129.90 @ Datatronic)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory (€70.90 @ Datatronic)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€139.90 @ Datatronic)
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7600 XT 16 GB Video Card (€359.90 @ Jimm's)
Case: KOLINK Observatory HF Mesh ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case (€50.90 @ Datatronic)
Power Supply: Corsair RM650 (2023) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€86.90 @ Datatronic)
Monitor: ASRock PG27FF1A 27.0" 1920 x 1080 165 Hz Monitor (€148.90 @ Datatronic)
Total: €1224.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-08-21 21:22 EEST+0300

 

[Aeacus]

PSU: Thermaltake 650W Smart BM3 Bronze - TT Premium Edition, semimodulaarinen ATX-virtalähde, 80 Plus Bronze
Link: https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Sho...ulaarinen-atx-virtalahde-80-plus-bronze-musta

DO NOT BUY IT! It is low quality PSU and will give build all sorts of powering issues (e.g random reboots or can even outright kill the hardware).

Since PSU powers everything, it is the most important component inside the PC!

That being said, good PSUs to go for, are: Seasonic Focus/Vertex/PRIME, Corsair RMx/RMi/HXi/AXi, Super Flower Leadex Gold/Platinum/Titanium.

My PCs are also powered by Seasonic. I have 2x PRIME TX-650 and 1x Focus PX-550 units. Full specs with pics in my sig.

E.g the very same PRIME TX-650 as i have,
link: https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Sho...aarinen-atx-virtalahde-80-plus-titanium-musta
The best offered by Seasonic. Highest efficiency there is: 80+ Titanium. Longest warranty there is: 12 years. Highest hold-up time there currently is: 35ms. Also, dead silent operation and many, many benefits more. Not to mention extremely good price.

I payed €206.50 for my PRIME TX-650 and oldest of them is now 8 years old (bought it Q4 2016), while still going strong.
Oh, i'm virolainen, so send greetz to your Finnish friend. (If you don't know what virolainen means, ask it from your Finnish friend.)

CPU Cooler: Thermaltake UX200 ARGB Lighting CPU Cooler
Link: https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Sho...-argb-lighting-cpu-cooler-prosessorijaahdytin

Better option would be 120 SE,
link: https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Sho...sassin-120-se-prosessorijaahdytin-musta-hopea

It is the value king of CPU air coolers, is much better than the Thermaltake RGB puke you included and is also cheaper.

PSU: Thermaltake 650W Smart BM3 Bronze - TT Premium Edition, semimodulaarinen ATX-virtalähde, 80 Plus Bronze
Link: https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Sho...ulaarinen-atx-virtalahde-80-plus-bronze-musta

Choosing a PC case is personal choice and i suggest that your friend picks out the PC case that they like to see the most.

 

[siam85]

Went a bit over 1200, but you get better a better graphics card, and more ram.


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor (€199.90 @ Proshop)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (€36.90 @ Datatronic)
Motherboard: ASRock B760 Pro RS/D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€129.90 @ Datatronic)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory (€70.90 @ Datatronic)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€139.90 @ Datatronic)
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7600 XT 16 GB Video Card (€359.90 @ Jimm's)
Case: KOLINK Observatory HF Mesh ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case (€50.90 @ Datatronic)
Power Supply: Corsair RM650 (2023) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€86.90 @ Datatronic)
Monitor: ASRock PG27FF1A 27.0" 1920 x 1080 165 Hz Monitor (€148.90 @ Datatronic)
Total: €1224.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-08-21 21:22 EEST+0300

Love the list! Can you please recommend an Nvidia GPU rather than an AMD GPU?

 

[siam85]

DO NOT BUY IT! It is low quality PSU and will give build all sorts of powering issues (e.g random reboots or can even outright kill the hardware).

Since PSU powers everything, it is the most important component inside the PC!

That being said, good PSUs to go for, are: Seasonic Focus/Vertex/PRIME, Corsair RMx/RMi/HXi/AXi, Super Flower Leadex Gold/Platinum/Titanium.

My PCs are also powered by Seasonic. I have 2x PRIME TX-650 and 1x Focus PX-550 units. Full specs with pics in my sig.

E.g the very same PRIME TX-650 as i have,
link: https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Sho...aarinen-atx-virtalahde-80-plus-titanium-musta
The best offered by Seasonic. Highest efficiency there is: 80+ Titanium. Longest warranty there is: 12 years. Highest hold-up time there currently is: 35ms. Also, dead silent operation and many, many benefits more. Not to mention extremely good price.

I payed €206.50 for my PRIME TX-650 and oldest of them is now 8 years old (bought it Q4 2016), while still going strong.
Oh, i'm virolainen, so send greetz to your Finnish friend. (If you don't know what virolainen means, ask it from your Finnish friend.)


Better option would be 120 SE,
link: https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Sho...sassin-120-se-prosessorijaahdytin-musta-hopea

It is the value king of CPU air coolers, is much better than the Thermaltake RGB puke you included and is also cheaper.


Choosing a PC case is personal choice and i suggest that your friend picks out the PC case that they like to see the most.

Thanks for the suggestion on the PSU! Highly appreciate it.

And also, thanks for the cooler suggestion, I think I will go with the one you suggested. Again, thank you!

 

[Hellfire13]

Something like this...

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13400F 2.5 GHz 10-Core Processor (€197.90 @ Datatronic)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (€36.90 @ Datatronic)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760M GAMING X AX Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€148.90 @ Datatronic)
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory (€109.90 @ Proshop)
Storage: Kingston NV2 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€114.90 @ Datatronic)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 2X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card (€299.90 @ Jimm's)
Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case (€67.90 @ Datatronic)
Power Supply: Corsair RM650 (2023) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€86.90 @ Datatronic)
Monitor: ASRock PG27FF1A 27.0" 1920 x 1080 165 Hz Monitor (€148.90 @ Datatronic)
Total: €1212.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-08-21 21:31 EEST+0300

 

[logainofhades]

Love the list! Can you please recommend an Nvidia GPU rather than an AMD GPU?

CoD prefers AMD, and AMD offers more Vram than Nvidia at the same price points. While 8gb is enough for me, as I am strictly a WoW player, with no interest in newer titles, I don't recommend any GPU less than 12gb these days, for others. The days of 8gb being enough, even for 1080p, are numbered. The 4060 8gb is similar performance, for less, today, but a 16gb 7600xt will hold up longer, if they want to play newer titles later on.

 

[artk2219]

I went a bit over, but something like this would work, it is also AM5 so you should have an upgrade path in the future. I've included a review for the 13400F since it includes all the CPU's that have been discussed. I did not include a cooler since the Ryzen 5 7600 comes with a bundled cooler that is enough for now, and can be upgraded later if you upgrade the CPU. I doubled the RAM to 32GB from 16GB, and went with an RX 6750 XT over anything short of an RTX 4070 or RX 7700 XT, which cost more. An RTX 4060 TI 16GB would be an equivalent card from Nvidia, but it costs 90 Euros more. I've included a review for the RX 7900 XTX which includes a bunch of cards and their relative performance. The RX 6750 XT isn't listed, but the RX 6700 XT is, the 6750 is a bit faster and is pretty much tied with the 2080 TI. They have roughly the same amount of VRAM and similar rasterization performance.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-13400f/17.html

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/xfx-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-magnetic-air/31.html

PCPartPicker Part List
https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/list/9HynYN

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/yXmmP6/amd-ryzen-5-7600-38-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100001015box) | €209.90 @ Proshop
**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte B650 UD AC ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/hsgrxr/gigabyte-b650-ud-ac-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-ud-ac) | €146.90 @ Datatronic
**Memory** | [Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory](https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/hMLFf7/kingston-fury-beast-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl36-memory-kf560c36bbek2-32) | €109.90 @ Proshop
**Storage** | [Crucial P3 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/dBBG3C/crucial-p3-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct2000p3ssd8) | €120.90 @ Datatronic
**Video Card** | [ASRock Phantom Gaming D OC Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Video Card](https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/LnVmP6/asrock-radeon-rx-6750-xt-12-gb-phantom-gaming-d-oc-video-card-rx6750xt-pgd-12go) | €389.00 @ Datatronic
**Case** | [KOLINK Unity Meshbay ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case](https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/2zdG3C/kolink-unity-meshbay-argb-atx-mid-tower-case-unity-meshbay-argb) | €54.90 @ Jimm's
**Power Supply** | [Cooler Master V750 Gold V2 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/HTQfrH/cooler-master-v750-gold-v2-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpy-750v-afbag) | €102.90 @ Datatronic
**Monitor** | [AOC 24G2SPAE/BK 23.8" 1920 x 1080 165 Hz Monitor](https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/QpDQzy/aoc-24g2spaebk-238-1920-x-1080-165-hz-monitor-24g2spaebk) | €134.90 @ Datatronic
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| **Total** | **€1269.30**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2024-08-21 23:23 EEST+0300 |

 

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (€126.83 @ Proshop)
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Assassin Spirit 120 EVO 68.9 CFM CPU Cooler (€29.90 @ Jimm's)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B760-P DDR4 II ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€134.03 @ Proshop)
Memory: *G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€62.90 @ Datatronic)
Storage: *Western Digital Blue SN580 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€118.90 @ Datatronic)
Video Card: *Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7600 XT 16 GB Video Card (€359.90 @ Jimm's)
Case: *Montech X3 Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case (€59.10 @ Proshop)
Power Supply: *Corsair RM650 (2023) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€86.90 @ Datatronic)
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit (€131.25 @ Proshop)
Monitor: *AOC 24G2SPAE/BK 23.8" 1920 x 1080 165 Hz Monitor (€134.90 @ Datatronic)
Total: €1244.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-08-22 06:15 EEST+0300

 

[siam85]

I went a bit over, but something like this would work, it is also AM5 so you should have an upgrade path in the future. I've included a review for the 13400F since it includes all the CPU's that have been discussed. I did not include a cooler since the Ryzen 5 7600 comes with a bundled cooler that is enough for now, and can be upgraded later if you upgrade the CPU. I doubled the RAM to 32GB from 16GB, and went with an RX 6750 XT over anything short of an RTX 4070 or RX 7700 XT, which cost more. An RTX 4060 TI 16GB would be an equivalent card from Nvidia, but it costs 90 Euros more. I've included a review for the RX 7900 XTX which includes a bunch of cards and their relative performance. The RX 6750 XT isn't listed, but the RX 6700 XT is, the 6750 is a bit faster and is pretty much tied with the 2080 TI. They have roughly the same amount of VRAM and similar rasterization performance.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-13400f/17.html

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/xfx-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-magnetic-air/31.html

PCPartPicker Part List
https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/list/9HynYN

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/yXmmP6/amd-ryzen-5-7600-38-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100001015box) | €209.90 @ Proshop
**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte B650 UD AC ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/hsgrxr/gigabyte-b650-ud-ac-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-ud-ac) | €146.90 @ Datatronic
**Memory** | [Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory](https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/hMLFf7/kingston-fury-beast-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl36-memory-kf560c36bbek2-32) | €109.90 @ Proshop
**Storage** | [Crucial P3 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/dBBG3C/crucial-p3-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct2000p3ssd8) | €120.90 @ Datatronic
**Video Card** | [ASRock Phantom Gaming D OC Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Video Card](https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/LnVmP6/asrock-radeon-rx-6750-xt-12-gb-phantom-gaming-d-oc-video-card-rx6750xt-pgd-12go) | €389.00 @ Datatronic
**Case** | [KOLINK Unity Meshbay ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case](https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/2zdG3C/kolink-unity-meshbay-argb-atx-mid-tower-case-unity-meshbay-argb) | €54.90 @ Jimm's
**Power Supply** | [Cooler Master V750 Gold V2 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/HTQfrH/cooler-master-v750-gold-v2-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpy-750v-afbag) | €102.90 @ Datatronic
**Monitor** | [AOC 24G2SPAE/BK 23.8" 1920 x 1080 165 Hz Monitor](https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/QpDQzy/aoc-24g2spaebk-238-1920-x-1080-165-hz-monitor-24g2spaebk) | €134.90 @ Datatronic
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| **Total** | **€1269.30**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2024-08-21 23:23 EEST+0300 |

Thanks for the list! Much appreciated it!

Question: As the PC will be built for long-term use, will the AMD processor generate heat or cause heating problems?

And the same question applies to the AMD graphics card.

Previously, when I had my PC in my country, I used a 3070 TI GPU, which provided excellent support. Never had any heating problems. From what I've heard, AMD processors and GPUs generate a lot of heat.

Let me know your thoughts.

 

[logainofhades]

All hardware these days can generate a lot of heat when taxed. Intel uses more power and generates more heat these days, on CPU side. Intel actually has been having issues with instabilty on 13th and 14th gen, due to degredation.

Nvidia is more efficient right now, with the 4000 series, but not by enough to really matter.

Before I consolidated my hardware some, I had a 5800x/RX 6800 build that I built, and was trouble free for quite awhile. The board actually first housed a 3700x, that I bought the week it launched. I won a system built by jaytwocents, that had a 12700k/3070ti. The Intel rig consumed more power, when gaming, than my AMD rig did.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

The GPU is a 300mm triple fan design, the CPU cooler is a big dual tower unit. in a mATX case with 3 fans, the thermals should be absolutely fine.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F 3.7 GHz 6-Core OEM/Tray Processor (€179.90 @ Proshop)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (€36.90 @ Datatronic)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650M AORUS ELITE AX Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard (€193.57 @ Proshop)
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€123.90 @ Datatronic)
Storage: Kingston KC3000 2.048 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€145.90 @ Datatronic)
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming D OC Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Video Card (€389.00 @ Datatronic)
Case: Chieftec BX-10B-M-OP MicroATX Mid Tower Case (€58.90 @ Datatronic)
Power Supply: MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€129.90 @ Proshop)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 Slim PWM PST 41.1 CFM 120 mm Fan (€7.90 @ Jimm's)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 Slim PWM PST 41.1 CFM 120 mm Fan (€7.90 @ Jimm's)
Total: €1273.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-08-22 20:08 EEST+0300

 

[artk2219]

Thanks for the list! Much appreciated it!

Question: As the PC will be built for long-term use, will the AMD processor generate heat or cause heating problems?

And the same question applies to the AMD graphics card.

Previously, when I had my PC in my country, I used a 3070 TI GPU, which provided excellent support. Never had any heating problems. From what I've heard, AMD processors and GPUs generate a lot of heat.

Let me know your thoughts.

The heat difference wouldn't be enough to really be noticeable between AMD and Intel. Honestly your case and cooler would make a big difference with this, the bundled cooler with the ryzen 5 7600 should be replaced when you get a chance, it keeps the cpu within normal operating temps, but its not especially good and it will run warm with it (I miss the wraith spire). The case in the parts list should be nice and airy so it will help keep things cool. AMD and Nvidia are pretty well tied from a thermal and acoustics standpoint on the GPU front as well. Some specific card models are worse than others, but its not really a huge difference for the most part. I've attached a review for the specific card i put in the parts list so you can see how it performs.

https://www.guru3d.com/review/asroc...tom-review/page-6/#graphics-card-temperatures