[SOLVED] New PC build time... already been 5 years+!

[Chairshot]

Hello all, it's been a while but that fun and expensive time has come... Upgrading the gaming PC!

Current PC is:
Intel i5 4690 @ 3.5ghz
Gigabyte Z97X-SLI
ASUS GeForce GTX 970 OC
G.Skill 8gb DDR3 2133
Soundblaster X-Fi
WD Black 256GB Performance SSD - 8 Gb/s M.2
Crucial MX100 2.5" 256GB SATA III
CoolerMaster 1000W PSU
NZXT H440 case

So here's the plan...
1. What YOUR PC will be used for. Gaming and some light non-3D Autocad
2. What YOUR budget is. +/- 2500$ CAD
3. What country : Canada
4. I look at prices on Newegg.ca, Pcpartpicker.com, amazon.ca and poke shopbot.ca as well.
5. IF YOU have a brand preference. Don't care... at first glance, was looking at AMD for CPU and NVIDIA for GPU
6. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts? Keeping the case + PSU. Will keep the the SSD and M2 for now... but if a good deal on a 500gb/1tb M.2 is avail, I could upgrade that as well.
7. No overclocking
8. What resolution? Current monitor is 1080p, but will eventually go 4k ( waiting for decent deal on a monitor)
9. WHEN do you plan to build it? Hopefully, max in a week or 2.

What I had in mind so far: CPU + MOBO + RAM + GPU
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS
G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 C16
MSI GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X TRIO or MSI RTX 2080 Super SEA Hawk X or... ?

Some questions:
1- regarding the GPU... 2080 super or bite the bullet and go 2080 TI? So many models that I'm kind of lost in there.

Saw this deal resterday PALIT GeForce RTX 2080 Ti GAMINGPRO OC that makes me wonder if worth it!? ( CAD 1599$) but cheapest is scary...

EDIT: or this EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti BLACK EDITION XC GAMING for CAD 1599$

2- Will upgrading the HD to a newer model make that big of a difference?
3- I think the PSU will be enough?
4- With no OC planned, is the stock heatsink/fan enough?

Feel free to comment, I might have overlooked something!
Merci d'avance.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | \*AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor | $636.95 @ shopRBC
Motherboard | Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard | $269.00 @ Canada Computers
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory | $113.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage | Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $158.05 @ Vuugo
Video Card | MSI GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card | $1129.00 @ Canada Computers
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $2306.99
| \*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria |
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-06 16:09 EDT-0400 |
This board is in stock at least and pretty good. Also with this budget i would most definitely upgrade SSD.

I would go with the gaming x trio since i see no need for a water cooled card. My friend has that model of 2080 super and seems to like it. Reviews are all positive. The 2080ti isnt worth the huge premium over the 2080 super.

Whats the model of this CM PSU? If its 5+ yrs old you may want to upgrade it anyhow for your new hardware.

 

[Chairshot]

Also with this budget i would most definitely upgrade SSD.

Makes perfect sense! Figured a 2018 M.2 would not be optimal. I wasn't sure the upgrade would make that much of a difference but it seems like it!

I would go with the gaming x trio since i see no need for a water cooled card. My friend has that model of 2080 super and seems to like it. Reviews are all positive.

Thanks, that's a good start. So many models makes it hard to weed out the bad choices.

The 2080ti isnt worth the huge premium over the 2080 super.

It is a good chunk of change to add to the bill... Maybe upgrade when the next gen shows up later this year (hopefully). I shouldn't have looked at all those benchmarks where the TI dominates... for a price!

Whats the model of this CM PSU? If its 5+ yrs old you may want to upgrade it anyhow for your new hardware.

Exact model is the Cooler Master Silent Pro M 1000W 80+bronze purchased in JAN 2011.... damn! Didn't expect that ahahahah. I'll look into that. What could happen if I use it? As far as I know, it's in good conditions. Never had any issues.

Thank you for your input!!!!

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Makes perfect sense! Figured a 2018 M.2 would not be optimal. I wasn't sure the upgrade would make that much of a difference but it seems like it!


Thanks, that's a good start. So many models makes it hard to weed out the bad choices.


It is a good chunk of change to add to the bill... Maybe upgrade when the next gen shows up later this year (hopefully). I shouldn't have looked at all those benchmarks where the TI dominates... for a price!


Exact model is the Cooler Master Silent Pro M 1000W 80+bronze purchased in JAN 2011.... damn! Didn't expect that ahahahah. I'll look into that. What could happen if I use it? As far as I know, it's in good conditions. Never had any issues.

Thank you for your input!!!!

A 9-year-old PSU with a Ryzen 9 and 2080 super seems like a bad idea.

Many things could happen.

• You could use it and it works fine for as long as you own it. Good, you saved some money.
• 
  
• You could use it and it fails, but nothing else is damaged. Then you have to buy a new PSU and are out the same amount of money as just replacing it when you upgraded. However now you were inconvenienced.
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• You use it and it fails and damages other hardware. Then you have to buy a new PSU plus any device damaged such as your very expensive GPU. Now you are out far more than if you just replaced it, to begin with.

My opinion. Replace it.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | \*AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor | $636.95 @ shopRBC
Motherboard | Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard | $269.00 @ Canada Computers
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory | $113.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage | Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $158.05 @ Vuugo
Video Card | MSI GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card | $1129.00 @ Canada Computers
Power Supply | Antec Earthwatts Gold Pro 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | $134.99 @ Amazon Canada
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $2441.98
| \*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria |
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-06 18:21 EDT-0400 |

 

[Chairshot]

A 9-year-old PSU with a Ryzen 9 and 2080 super seems like a bad idea.
Many things could happen... My opinion. Replace it.

100% right. Thanks.

Motherboard | Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard | $269.00 @ Canada Computers

Will keep an eye out for this one... but it goes from avail to sold out real fast!

Plan B: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS or Gigabyte X570 GAMING X but no wi-fi...

The wifi version of those is at least 50$ more expensive than the ASUS... to wifi or not wifi ahaha

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Id avoid the msi. Really bad vrm overheating issues. Gigabyte is better.

 

[Chairshot]

quick question pops to mind and I cant seem to find a definite answer.

2080 Ti and Ryzen 3800 or Ryzen 3900 and 2080 super? With games being more GPU dependent, does that make sense?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Really, the performance difference between a 3600x, 3700x, 3800x, 3900x, and 3950x is not a ton, certainly no more than 15% in most cases.

The 3700x (3800x isnt worth the extra money) and 2080ti would be a good combo.

 

[Chairshot]

Thank you so much NightHawk for you time!

Now.... time to find the parts ahahah and availability is an issue it seems!!!

Ryzen 3900x / 2080 Super

Ryzen 3700x / 2080 TI


Mobo will be switched as the price jumped to 430$ instead of 271$.

 

[Chairshot]

How to bust a budget 101.... but oh well. Wife did say OK

Ended up going with this build: Ryzen 9 + 2080 TI

CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	$642.50​
Motherboard	Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI)	$279.99​
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600	$114.99​
Storage	Sabrent Rocket Q 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME	$169.99​
Video Card	Gigabyte RTX 2080 Ti AORUS XTREME	$1649.99​
Monitor	BenQ EW3270U 31.5" 3840x2160 60 Hz	$499.99​

Total $2856.47 CAD
$3356 CAD with the new monitor
Prices jumped quite a bit as I ordered everything may 15th-17th

I'm happy. Will get a new powersupply as well next week as stores reopen in my area.

Now waiting for FN UPS who were supposed to deliver the parts between today and friday... Nothing so far unfortunatly!