Hey all, so I received a ton of good help five years ago in building this PC (2). I have since increased the amount of RAM, but haven't really done anything else. It's working pretty well for the most part, but with Windows 7 no longer supported, I think I need an upgrade in order to be able to install Windows 11. Are there any other parts I could swap or add in that could cheaply improve performance as well?
Question New PC - five years later
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You have exactly what is in the list below as of right now, other than RAM?
What is your RAM situation now?
If you want Windows 11, you have to move ahead quite a bit.
Less so for Windows 10.
How much can you spend?
CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H270M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($106.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($47.59 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 460 2GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card ($108.96 @ Amazon)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.24 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($45.61 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($18.37 @ Amazon)
Total: $431.75
What is your RAM situation now?
If you want Windows 11, you have to move ahead quite a bit.
Less so for Windows 10.
How much can you spend?
CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H270M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($106.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($47.59 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 460 2GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card ($108.96 @ Amazon)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.24 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($45.61 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($18.37 @ Amazon)
Total: $431.75
Hi and thanks. I forget exactly what I added, but my installed memory is now at 32GB. Otherwise I've only upgraded the monitor and external hard drive, which isn't too relevant here. I could spend what you listed for sure.
What I listed is what was shown in your first post as near as I can tell.
Is that not true?
That stuff is not going to work for Windows 11.
List the parts you own right now so we can evaluate where you stand right now.
In detail....brand, model number, for each major part. Probably 8 or 10 different items.
I think I misunderstood you. Should be:
Intel Core i3-6100 3.7 GHz Dual-Core Processor
ASRock H110M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard
Gigabyte WINDFORCE Radeon RX 460 2 GB Video Card
Thermaltake Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case
EVGA 430 W1 430 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply
Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer
Crucial CT250BX1 00SSD1 (has the OS on it)
Seagate st1000dm 1TB HDD
Newer items:
Corsair 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory
LG UHD 27-Inch Computer Monitor 27UL500
Logitech MK710
WD 4TB Elements Portable HDD
I don't think I'd spend over 500, but do you think it'll be more cost-effective to just replace the motherboard and CPU? Are those the only parts deficient for Windows 11? I can buy parts wherever, I usually have on those sites.
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PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: *Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($149.97 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($18.89 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($48.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $347.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
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You can get into Windows 11 territory for under 500.
All you'd absolutely have to replace would be CPU and motherboard and cooler if your new CPU doesn't include one.
Current RAM might I say might work on new motherboard?
Other stuff you MIGHT want to change:
Case? It may be OK for airflow and reusable.
power supply if it has a lot of age on it;
Video card? Don't know what you do with the PC; it might still be OK.
Your case is micro ATX; you should be able to use a new micro ATX motherboard rather than current mini ITX.
All you'd absolutely have to replace would be CPU and motherboard and cooler if your new CPU doesn't include one.
Current RAM might I say might work on new motherboard?
Other stuff you MIGHT want to change:
Case? It may be OK for airflow and reusable.
power supply if it has a lot of age on it;
Video card? Don't know what you do with the PC; it might still be OK.
Your case is micro ATX; you should be able to use a new micro ATX motherboard rather than current mini ITX.
OK thanks both! I would go with the i5-12400F and MSI PRO B660M-A. It seems my RAM should be fine for it, and the CPU does come with a cooler, unless you think for $20 the one listed above would be much better?
How would I determine power supply aging? It is five and a half years old now, but I haven't encountered any issues... Should I just replace it to protect the rest of the PC?
How would I determine power supply aging? It is five and a half years old now, but I haven't encountered any issues... Should I just replace it to protect the rest of the PC?
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The 12th gen Intel coolers are a lot better than previous versions, to be honest (check out some reviews). When I did my upgrade including a 12400F, I had issues with aftermarket coolers (missing adapters, fouling on the case motherboard tray) which meant I had to use the stock cooler for a while. I thought I'd end up getting around to replacing it since I previously used a large aftermarket cooler on my Haswell. Yet I still haven't. It's pretty quiet compared to stock coolers of days past, louder than aftermarkets when I push it but I normally have headphones on and can't hear it. Temperatures are all really good, never anywhere near throttling.
There will always be some people who claim that stock coolers are trash for running anything other than an office suite but I can certainly vouch for the cooler that came with the 12400F. Ultimately of course it's up to you.
This would be a good upgrade, but you could get more life from your current build by just going for Windows 10. Back when you built your current system, Windows 10 was already out, so it's not like your hardware isn't up to it. But if you really want Windows 11, or just an upgrade, then go ahead with these new parts.
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I would suggest a CPU/Mobo/PSU/GPU upgrade like this:
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: Intel Core i3-13100F 3.4 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($110.45 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760M GAMING X AX DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 CL16 Memory (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: Intel Limited Edition Arc A750 8 GB Video Card ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower Grand RGB 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $545.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-07 09:43 EDT-0400
Would suggest this PSU if you can spend a bit more: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hC...-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0750fnfagu-4
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: Intel Core i3-13100F 3.4 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($110.45 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760M GAMING X AX DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 CL16 Memory (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: Intel Limited Edition Arc A750 8 GB Video Card ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower Grand RGB 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $545.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-07 09:43 EDT-0400
Would suggest this PSU if you can spend a bit more: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hC...-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0750fnfagu-4
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No GPU upgrade?
500$ budget?
IF you could sell your PC , do you think you would be able to go 600$-650$?
Ryzen 5 5600 and MSI B550M PRO-VDH Wi-Fi would replace 12400F and B660 that Lucky recommended.
RX6600 would be MASSIVE upgrade over your 460 2GB.
IF not GPU upgrade, 5600 and that B550 are both cheaper than that 12400F abd B660 and 5600 is about as good as 12400F if I am not mistaken.
Some 30$ or so overall savings.
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PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: *Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($149.97 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($18.89 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($48.97 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Core Radeon RX 7600 8 GB Video Card ($257.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $605.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-07 07:26 EDT-0400
The reason I went with RX6600 and not something better is because he also wants Windows 11.
And Win 11 price is 120$ or so on DVD,130 Download and 140 on USB
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I’d get this board before that b760 I think. Better chipset and less money.
I think the one above is the micro version. Looks like the full size one is the same price.
I ran an asrock b350 board for years on my old ryzen system.
Looks like Amazon burned through their stock, they did have the 12600kf for $140. I’ll put the link below but I doubt you want to wait until February. I was able to grab one last week while they were still on prime shipping.
At this point get the 12600k imo. May not want to wait though as it’s anyway showing delivery for Thursday December 7, so they may be getting low on stock. Might check Newegg as well. Just actually checked on that and it’s looking like most places on pcpartpicker are pretty well out of stock on this one, so if you are going to get it move quick. Alternatively drop to the 12400 for less or spend extra for the 13400 which is fairly close to the 12600k but is priced For 200 unfortunately.
On graphics card, id consider the rx 6600 over the arc a750. Intel is getting better for sure with drivers but amd is a bit more proven there unless you can get an incredible deal although here’s an Rx 6600 under 200.
Used isn’t always ideal but to shave some money off build costs, you might look on eBay and consider a used rx 5600xt. If I recall they are pretty close to the rx 6600. Here’s an example for around 125.
Though if you look I think you can find the rx 5700xt for not a lot more. You don’t have to go that route, just might be worth looking into considering the budget. Just watch the sellers feedback and the description. And be sure to run the cards hard as soon as you get it, I think eBay offers 30 days for you to return it even if they say they don’t accept returns.
I think the one above is the micro version. Looks like the full size one is the same price.
I ran an asrock b350 board for years on my old ryzen system.
Looks like Amazon burned through their stock, they did have the 12600kf for $140. I’ll put the link below but I doubt you want to wait until February. I was able to grab one last week while they were still on prime shipping.
At this point get the 12600k imo. May not want to wait though as it’s anyway showing delivery for Thursday December 7, so they may be getting low on stock. Might check Newegg as well. Just actually checked on that and it’s looking like most places on pcpartpicker are pretty well out of stock on this one, so if you are going to get it move quick. Alternatively drop to the 12400 for less or spend extra for the 13400 which is fairly close to the 12600k but is priced For 200 unfortunately.
On graphics card, id consider the rx 6600 over the arc a750. Intel is getting better for sure with drivers but amd is a bit more proven there unless you can get an incredible deal although here’s an Rx 6600 under 200.
Used isn’t always ideal but to shave some money off build costs, you might look on eBay and consider a used rx 5600xt. If I recall they are pretty close to the rx 6600. Here’s an example for around 125.
XFX AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT 6GB GDDR6 RAW II Pro Graphics Card GPU | eBay
Up for sale is this XFX RX 5600 XT Raw II Pro GPU.
www.ebay.com
Though if you look I think you can find the rx 5700xt for not a lot more. You don’t have to go that route, just might be worth looking into considering the budget. Just watch the sellers feedback and the description. And be sure to run the cards hard as soon as you get it, I think eBay offers 30 days for you to return it even if they say they don’t accept returns.
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Lucky_SLS
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the phantom gaming has a 7 phase VRM design, the gaming X B760 is better with an 8 phase design.
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Not sure if I'm the biggest gigabyte fan myself. Used to really like their products but a friend of mine bought a 7900 xtx from them which developed issues later on. He RMA'd it and got basically what looked like a used beat up card which failed within hours. From what he said he had to RMA that one and they sent him a better looking working card, but he was down a month or more waiting on them. In that time he actually asked them for a refund since he was only a few months into a 3 year warranty which they didn't want to do. He ended up buying a different card and sold the one they sent back but lost a little money and was quite adamant he was never buying gigabyte again.
Finished the rebuild last week. Working great, everyone, thanks!
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