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[King Dranzer]

So you have nothing but pure speculation on a future product based on the 9800X3D's performance. The 9950X will very likely perform better in tasks than the 9950X3D when the cache is doing nothing but holding clocks back compared to the 9950X. Very few, if any, production applications in the use case can take advantage of the main benefit of increased cache, and even in those cases we cannot know by how much until reviews come out. The 9950X will be equal to, or better than a 9950X3D in everything that does not benefit from the 3D cache, and that is the most charitable way of putting it. Worst case for the 9950X vs the upcoming 9950X3D would be cache sensitive work load, and the non-X3D part will probably do nearly as well in those tasks. All we can do is wait for reviews. The OP needs a PC ASAP and the meager gains in very few use cases over the 9950X don't warrant more than a month of waiting IMO.

It won't be held back on Clocks either. So even for Multi-core performance be on par with 9950X if not better.

But I checked back again. And here Both Unreal and Houdini benefit greatly from 3D v-cache as 7950X3D even with lower clock speeds performed better than 7950X. This time the performance gain be even larger as 9950X3D won't be limited on clock speed like 7950X3D was.

And yes those software also benefit with higher core count. So 9950X3D also benefits over 9800X3D in that department.

It obviously is worth the wait.

 

[helper800]

It won't be held back on Clocks either. So even for Multi-core performance be on par with 9950X if not better.

This time the performance gain be even larger as 9950X3D won't be limited on clock speed like 7950X3D was.

Just to be clear, this is speculation on an upcoming product based on a current product. We do not know to what extent the 9950X vs the 9950X3D will mirror the 9700X vs the 9800X3D. The 9700X at the same power constraints as the 9800X3D clocks the same or faster than the 9800X3D.

We will have to agree to disagree. IF the 9950X3D were available right now, I would say give it a shot, but its not, and an extra 10-15% is two workloads vs potentially losing performance across the board in everything else is not worth a 6 week+ wait, IMO.

 

[FlewDesigns]

So you have nothing but pure speculation on a future product based on the 9800X3D's performance. The 9950X will very likely perform better in tasks than the 9950X3D when the cache is doing nothing but holding clocks back compared to the 9950X. Very few, if any, production applications in the use case can take advantage of the main benefit of increased cache, and even in those cases we cannot know by how much until reviews come out. The 9950X will be equal to, or better than a 9950X3D in everything that does not benefit from the 3D cache, and that is the most charitable way of putting it. Worst case for the 9950X vs the upcoming 9950X3D would be cache sensitive work load, and the non-X3D part will probably do nearly as well in those tasks. All we can do is wait for reviews. The OP needs a PC ASAP and the meager gains in very few use cases over the 9950X don't warrant more than a month of waiting IMO.

Yes i would like to buy the PC this month, black friday is approaching so i would like to get everything but with possible a 4060 card and then upgrade to 5000 series card or even use both.

With that in mind to quote user 'Why Me' above...

Intel Core Ultra 9 285K 3.7 GHz 24-Core Processor​

or

AMD 9950X

Performance Core Clock​

4.7 GHz

Performance Core Boost Clock​

5.2 GHz

Bare in mind that this is more for production/heavy cpu usage as Vray is heavily CPU based.

I assume the 9950X is better due to the core clock which makes sense to me.


Thanks all again for commenting.

 

[helper800]

Yes i would like to buy the PC this month, black friday is approaching so i would like to get everything but with possible a 4060 card and then upgrade to 5000 series card or even use both.

With that in mind to quote user 'Why Me' above...

Intel Core Ultra 9 285K 3.7 GHz 24-Core Processor​

or

AMD 9950X

Performance Core Clock​

4.7 GHz

Performance Core Boost Clock​

5.2 GHz

Bare in mind that this is more for production/heavy cpu usage as Vray is heavily CPU based.

I assume the 9950X is better due to the core clock which makes sense to me.


Thanks all again for commenting.

I can show you a graph from TPU as they tested both CPUs in V-Ray, though I am not sure this 100% transfers to how you would personally use V-Ray, it is informative.

 

[FlewDesigns]

I can show you a graph from TPU as they tested both CPUs in V-Ray, though I am not sure this 100% transfers to how you would personally use V-Ray, it is informative.

Yeah that is very informative! thanks.

 

[King Dranzer]

I would still be a broken record at this point and tell you to reconsider the CPU purchase. But well it also depends on Software you use the most. Like if Unreal Engine, Houdini, Lightroom etc. won't be used much then yes There won't be much of a difference. But if you do plan to use those then there be a decent difference in performance if you go for 9950X3D over 9950X.

That is all from me.