New rig freezes mid game :(

[Mife Warskin]

I bought a "broken" pc and fixed it. It has the amd 9590, a lepa aquachanger LPWAC120-HF as a cpu liquid cooling unit, 24 gigs of ram, msi gtx 970, gigabyte ga-990 rev 4 and a 700w psu.

The pc runs well when I'm using programs etc, but the pc freezes midgame. The cpu used to run really hot and freeze only minutes in with air cooling, but this time it lasted 45 minutes with the water cooler. better, but not fixed.

Bios is all up to date, drivers are installed. What else could it be?

 

[MaDDD]

Deleted - Read OP wrongly

 

[valeman2012]

I bought a "broken" pc and fixed it. It has the amd 9590, a lepa aquachanger LPWAC120-HF as a cpu liquid cooling unit, 24 gigs of ram, msi gtx 970, gigabyte ga-990 rev 4 and a 700w psu.

The pc runs well when I'm using programs etc, but the pc freezes midgame. The cpu used to run really hot and freeze only minutes in with air cooling, but this time it lasted 45 minutes with the water cooler. better, but not fixed.

Bios is all up to date, drivers are installed. What else could it be?

Run Memtest on each Ram.

Usually people do not buy a broken computer to have it fix or you encounter frustrated issues.

 

[sizzling]

700w is under the minimum recommended by AMD when running that cpu, they suggest 850w. Which exact make and model PSU is it? There is a massive difference between a low or high quality unit.

 

[DSzymborski]

Knowing what you actually did to fix the PC would be extremely helpful. All we know is that the PC was broken when you got it, without any of the steps in between then and now.

Without better information I'd suspect CPU issues - dealing with that mess of a CPU has made more than its far share of users throw up their hands in frustration. Either generally unstable itself or a PSU issue contributing to the issue; you told us a "700W PSU" which is also a giant red flag.

 

[Mife Warskin]

I believe that the 970 chipset cant handle the higher power and higher heat output of the 9590. If true then that would explain your issue.

700w is under the minimum recommended by AMD when running that cpu, they suggest 850w. Which exact make and model PSU is it? There is a massive difference between a low or high quality unit.

I trust the psu is a quality one as I bought it from a trusted and well informed friend on pc parts. I cant recall or see the exact model it is without taking it out, but I know its a thermaltake.

So its possible I'm underpowering it?

 

[Mife Warskin]

Knowing what you actually did to fix the PC would be extremely helpful. All we know is that the PC was broken when you got it, without any of the steps in between then and now.

Without better information I'd suspect CPU issues - dealing with that mess of a CPU has made more than its far share of users throw up their hands in frustration. Either generally unstable itself or a PSU issue contributing to the issue; you told us a "700W PSU" which is also a giant red flag.

Well, I replaced the case, I replaced the cpu cooler, and I cleaned some thermalpaste from the very side of the cpu socket that the previous owner did. He put wayyyyyy too much on there. I haven't really done anymore than that really other than replace the psu from a broken 750w corsair to a 700w thermaltake.

 

[sizzling]

Thermaltake gives a little comfort, I am not aware of any crap PSU's in their range but I'm not overly familiar with their range. However they do mediocre up to very good psu's. Knowing which one would help a lot. Although you say this person knows a lot they managed to pick a PSU that's under the recommended wattage, also people often know about CPU's & gpu's but little about PSU's which are equally important.

 

[MaDDD]

Sorry about my 1st post, I misread it. If it was overheating before there is potential that it has suffered some degradation in performance and stability (Remembering that the 9590 is pretty much the good picks of overclocked 8350/8370 chips that could reach 5GHz). But, a rough calculation would see that around 550W would be enough to power it. But if the PSU is old and/or of poor quality then it could perhaps cause issues but if it's as decent as your friend may have made out, then it's unlikely.

It would be helpful to know what model PSU it is though, we may be able to spot something wrong from knowing.

 

[Mife Warskin]

Thermaltake gives a little comfort, I am not aware of any crap PSU's in their range but I'm not overly familiar with their range. However they do mediocre up to very good psu's. Knowing which one would help a lot. Although you say this person knows a lot they managed to pick a PSU that's under the recommended wattage, also people often know about CPU's & gpu's but little about PSU's which are equally important.

yeah to be fair he didn't know anything that was going on with it. I just asked him if he had a psu and he sold me it. I didn't think too much of it as it was only 50w under the original. Though its pretty obvious I was completely wrong

 

[Mife Warskin]

Sorry about my 1st post, I misread it. If it was overheating before there is potential that it has suffered some degradation in performance and stability (Remembering that the 9590 is pretty much the good picks of overclocked 8350/8370 chips that could reach 5GHz). But, a rough calculation would see that around 550W would be enough to power it. But if the PSU is old and/or of poor quality then it could perhaps cause issues but if it's as decent as your friend may have made out, then it's unlikely.

It would be helpful to know what model PSU it is though, we may be able to spot something wrong from knowing.

Thermaltake TR2

 

[Mife Warskin]

Okay looks like the PSU is a thermaltake tr2

 

[Mife Warskin]

Thermaltake gives a little comfort, I am not aware of any crap PSU's in their range but I'm not overly familiar with their range. However they do mediocre up to very good psu's. Knowing which one would help a lot. Although you say this person knows a lot they managed to pick a PSU that's under the recommended wattage, also people often know about CPU's & gpu's but little about PSU's which are equally important.

The PSU is a thermaltake TR2

 

[sizzling]

Ok I am not familiar with that model at all, I would have to look up reviews. I'm at work at the moment so hopefully someone who knows can chime in.

 

[DSzymborski]

The TR2 is not the PSU I would have chosen for an FX-9590. Presumably this is the fine-but-not-amazing TR2s made by FSP or CWT that you see around rather than the much older HEC-made ones that were complete junk. With that CPU, I would've gone with a top-tier PSU for sure, to get as much stability as possible to take that out of the equation for such a problematic CPU. For Thermaltake, that would have meant something from the Toughpower series, not their budget-oriented offering.

That being said, given that you've now told us that you replaced the PSU (more information is usually better!) I'm not suspecting as much that the problem is PSU-related. Next, I'd suggest the RAM and if that doesn't yield anything, I'd underclock the CPU and see if it improves the stability. And of course, continue to check your temperatures, though that cooler *does* claim to be able to deal with a TDP over 300W.

(Now I see the previous PSU was *broken*. Did the original user report any CPU problems while it was working?)

 

[Mife Warskin]

The TR2 is not the PSU I would have chosen for an FX-9590. Presumably this is the fine-but-not-amazing TR2s made by FSP or CWT that you see around rather than the much older HEC-made ones that were complete junk. With that CPU, I would've gone with a top-tier PSU for sure, to get as much stability as possible to take that out of the equation for such a problematic CPU. For Thermaltake, that would have meant something from the Toughpower series, not their budget-oriented offering.

That being said, given that you've now told us that you replaced the PSU (more information is usually better!) I'm not suspecting as much that the problem is PSU-related. Next, I'd suggest the RAM and if that doesn't yield anything, I'd underclock the CPU and see if it improves the stability. And of course, continue to check your temperatures, though that cooler *does* claim to be able to deal with a TDP over 300W.

(Now I see the previous PSU was *broken*. Did the original user report any CPU problems while it was working?)

He had the same issue I am currently having with an additional issue where his ssd was wiped of windows somehow without him knowing why. He wasn't as computer friendly as I am keeping in mind that I'm hhardly computer friendly. Now that you dsay it, underclocking it could work. After installing the liquid cooler, I felt the cpu fan and it was burning up. So then I reset the bios and it ran cooler for longer.

Also, I'm looking at toughpower psus. How does an 850w bronze 80 sound?

 

[DSzymborski]

The TR2 is not the PSU I would have chosen for an FX-9590. Presumably this is the fine-but-not-amazing TR2s made by FSP or CWT that you see around rather than the much older HEC-made ones that were complete junk. With that CPU, I would've gone with a top-tier PSU for sure, to get as much stability as possible to take that out of the equation for such a problematic CPU. For Thermaltake, that would have meant something from the Toughpower series, not their budget-oriented offering.

That being said, given that you've now told us that you replaced the PSU (more information is usually better!) I'm not suspecting as much that the problem is PSU-related. Next, I'd suggest the RAM and if that doesn't yield anything, I'd underclock the CPU and see if it improves the stability. And of course, continue to check your temperatures, though that cooler *does* claim to be able to deal with a TDP over 300W.

(Now I see the previous PSU was *broken*. Did the original user report any CPU problems while it was working?)

He had the same issue I am currently having with an additional issue where his ssd was wiped of windows somehow without him knowing why. He wasn't as computer friendly as I am keeping in mind that I'm hhardly computer friendly. Now that you dsay it, underclocking it could work. After installing the liquid cooler, I felt the cpu fan and it was burning up. So then I reset the bios and it ran cooler for longer.

Also, I'm looking at toughpower psus. How does an 850w bronze 80 sound?

Honestly, I'd try other things first, I don't think the PSU is most likely the problem here, even if I'm not enthralled with its quality.

 

[MaDDD]

Just thought I'd add this, as I seen it in another thread. Though they were talking of the FX 9370, the scenario is even worse in your case with a even higher clocked CPU... "No board supports it very well even my ASRock 990FX Extreme 9 couldn't handle one with a custom cooler." - As the TPD of the CPU is so high at 220W, it makes it quite questionable as to what motherboards will actually run it even though the manufacturers may state it's compatible. To add to that, a lot of coolers tend to struggle along with it. But that may not cause the issue. It would probably be a good idea to have a look at the temps it gets up to. And also try clocking it down to perhaps 4.5 GHz or so and lowering the voltage a little. My guess after finding the motherboard info out. Is that under-clocking and under-volting it will be your best bet.