New to building, need opinions on parts list. Please

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I'm new to pc building and asked the kind folks on PCPartPicker for some help. I got some recommendations and just wanted a second opinion on them.

Here's some background information so you can know what I'm looking for:
-I'm a freshman college student going to study mechanical engineering
-My budget is $1000 (a little over is o.k. but I'd prefer not to go over $1300)
-location: USA
-Use: schoolwork, General web surfing/YouTube type activities, CAD, Gaming - preferably able to play AAA on at least med/high to ultra (high is enough, don't NEED ultra, but it would be nice)
-Peripherals required: monitor, keyboard, a recommended headset/headphones (don't have to include, can get this later)
-Will probably use windows as the OS, as I can get student discounts

This is what was suggested to me:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q7vRPs
and
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xqw3pb
 
Solution
The first list is more balanced than the second one. However both have left some room for improvement. I would say, if you can add $50 to the budget, you can get a more balanced build.
Here is why.
A 1500x is not reasonable at this budget as you can get better cpu than that. Most have mixed 1500x with either 1060 or 1080 which are disproportionate with the monitors added. Either you are going to underutilized your card or your budget.
The best mix would be a 144hz monitor with a gtx 1070. The prices of cards are pretty crappy right now, but you can still get a good build with another $50.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($197.88 @ OutletPC)...
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A few thoughts:
1) A Ryzen 5 1500x would probably bottleneck a GTX 1080 (meaning the CPU is a lot worse than the GPU and won't let the GPU reach its full potential)
2) A 27in screen is typically to large to run a resolution of 1080p at nice quality. Image might be a little pixelated because 1080p doesn't have enough pixels to give you pristine quality on a monitor that large. You could either move down to a nice 24in monitor with 1080p (probably your best bet), or bump up to 1440p (a little pricier).
3) GPU prices right now are still pretty high from the ethereum mining craze so if I were you, I would wait until prices go back down to normal.
4) 8Gb of RAM is alright... You're probably gonna wanna go with 12-16 if possible.
5) If you're set on using Ryzen (however, I always prefer going Intel), you might want to bump up the RAM from 2400 to 2666 or higher because the frequency of RAM makes a great difference when using Ryzen (it doesn't matter much with Intel though).
6) Having a small SSD in your system and a large HDD is always the better option because you can use the SSD to install windows on and it'll make everything run faster. You can put all your games on your HDD.
 
Here is the list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($197.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($83.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($75.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($528.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair - 100R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Dell - SE2417HG 23.6" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($151.32 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Redragon - K551 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1204.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-21 13:18 EDT-0400

Re-posted the build.
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($197.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($83.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($131.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($77.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC2 Gaming iCX Video Card ($484.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer - H226HQLbid 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Redragon - K552 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($32.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Logitech - G230 Headset ($32.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1294.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-21 13:22 EDT-0400

This is my idea of what would work for your needs. Have fun building whatever you decide!
 


I like this build a lot better than King Dranzer's but I'm still not a fan of Ryzen. Once again, make sure to wait to see if GPU prices drop because that's a lot of money for a 1070. That's what I paid for my 1080 a few months ago.
 
The first list is more balanced than the second one. However both have left some room for improvement. I would say, if you can add $50 to the budget, you can get a more balanced build.
Here is why.
A 1500x is not reasonable at this budget as you can get better cpu than that. Most have mixed 1500x with either 1060 or 1080 which are disproportionate with the monitors added. Either you are going to underutilized your card or your budget.
The best mix would be a 144hz monitor with a gtx 1070. The prices of cards are pretty crappy right now, but you can still get a good build with another $50.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($197.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($81.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($121.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($77.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC2 Gaming iCX Video Card ($484.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair - SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus - VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Thermaltake - Commander Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Laser Mouse ($26.79 @ OutletPC)
Headphones: Logitech - G230 Headset ($32.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1350.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-21 13:34 EDT-0400
 
Solution
Yes gpu prices are way high. If he can wait tell they settle back it would be better. i payed 325 for my 1070 gaming g1 a few months ago as well. Problems is intel he would want to go with a i7 7700k for his cad work, costing about 200 more on the cpu and mb then the ryzen setup.
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($308.87 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - Z270-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($91.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($131.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($77.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($294.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer - H226HQLbid 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Redragon - K552 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($32.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Logitech - G230 Headset ($32.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1258.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-21 13:42 EDT-0400

Heres a intel version had to move to a 1060 to stay in budget with gpu prices

Also hellfires build is very nice if you can make that stretch
 
Thank you everyone for the help. I think I'll start with the Ryzen build of Hellfire's. I definitely will wait for the prices to drop.

Thanks for all the input!
 


If you're waiting for prices to drop, just bump up that 1070 to a 1080. It'll cost about the same price when prices go back to normal.
 

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