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I've always built my systems in the past, but the last system I built was like 5 years ago,
and it did very well for my needs, and then my current computer which is an HP 1600n and it
really SUCKS! It was given to me a few months ago, so I can't really complain about
what I spent on it. 😉 However, the wasted time and frustration with this computer,
has set back my productivity in many ways.

Anyway - it's time for a new computer, I have tried replacing ram 3 times, with Kingston,
generic brand, and no 2 sticks ever work together - only 1 Memory stick is recognized,
at any given time, and the motherboard only accepts 1 GB sticks, which makes everything
run SLOWWWLY - constant freezing, Premiere Pro won't even anymore.

I'm tired of trying to upgrade and troubleshoot this computer, and I'm just done dealing with it,
I have some projects that I'm working on now, and they involve video editing, as well as an overall
very well functioning computer that will not freeze and in turn slow me down.

I am looking for an overall well functioning computer that will perform when I multi task,
and will handle all tasks I throw at it quickly.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: NOW

Budget: $1500 - $2000 MAX

Country of Origin: Canada

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Video Editing with Adobe Premiere Pro CS5, Photoshop and other office applications.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Doesn't matter, willing to order online, or purchase at a
retail store. The quicker I can get my hands on a system the better.

PARTS PREFERENCES: I need to have a Quad Core system, I'm looking into an i7 930,
6 GB - 12 GB RAM

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe

MONITOR RESOLUTION: I have a Samsung 323T - Currently i'ts running at 1280 x 768 -
I know I may need a true 1080p monitor, and will upgrade IF I have to, I really like my 32" screen now.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I am looking at a few options right now.

Option 1 Now - UPDATED list:

The build has been purchased! I have some final research to finalize, and it's in regards to upgrading to a better card now, instead of upgrading later. Considering a GTX 470 or a 5870 card, since they're around a $50 difference.

The GTX 470 seems to run way too hot - but is a way better performer than the 5850.

i7 930 + ASUS P6X58D-E

CORSAIR XMS3 6GB 1600c7

120 GB SSD OCZ Vertex Series - Boot Drive

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 TB

ZOTAC GeForce GTS 250

CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-650HX ( If I upgrade - I'll need 750w )

NH-D14 Cooler + 2 x 140mm Noctua NF-P14 Exhaust fans + 120mm rear fan - will get 2 x 120mm fans for front intake.

Samsung DVD Burner

CM 690 II Advanced

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Additional Notes:

Gaming is not that important to me on the PC as I have an Xbox 360, along
with a 47" 1080p LCD where all the gaming is done in the basement, plus,
these days, I don't really have time to play games.

My time is better spent working, and taking care of my family.

Although it'll be nice to play games on it once in a while, this will NOT be the primary focus
for this computer.

My main focus is to have a powerful Computer that can chew through all tasks I throw at it,
where I can do video editing without a hitch, with room to grow and expand if needed.

Any suggestions, feedback, and opinions on which option I should go with are welcomed.

...........

Whoa, sorry about all this info guys, I am doing thorough research right now, as I need to get
my hands on a new system asap.

Thanks in advance!
 
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Yeah - I totallly agree Mark!

I'm kinda stuck now 'cuz my RAM is out of stock, so I'll give it a couple days to see if they get any more.

I know if I get the MSI board, it will give me an incentive to upgrade later, and will be great knowing this board will and can handle anything I throw at it.

On other notes, I've been watching some Cable Management / PC build videos, and came across this video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3ZheTOV5uk

@3:20 you can see the inside of the case.

He ended up going with this:
NZXT SEN-001LX Sentry LX Aluminum dual bay fan controller
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811992004&cm_re=nzxt-_-11-992-004-_-Product

What do you guys think?

Any other suggestions?

A reviewer wrote:

Cons: Newegg failed to include the fact that this controller ONLY uses 3-pin fan connectors instead of the common 4-pin molex. You will not be able to use this unit for fan readings unless you have case fans, and a CPU fan that have 3-pin connectors.

Plus, he also changed all his case fans with Noctua fans

Does this also keep track of all component Temperatures?

I believe the MSI Board has fan and temp controls on their external unit OC unit. This would be another plus for the MSI board. :)

Thanks in advance for further feedback.
 
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Both versions of that Sentry are pure junk ... more than 507% fail in under 6 months ... something like that. Looks very cool, tho.

Let your mobo control them and use the LNA/ULNA if you need to attenuate the noise.

Read the reviews on egg.usa ... LOTS of "total junk" reports ... LOTS.

= Al =
 
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Yea, after futher research, that seems to be the consensus.

Please correct me if I'm wrong - I believe the MSI Big Bang Xpower has fan and temp control, on top of OC control with an external device.

Rigth now - I'm truly leaning towards the MSI board, simply because its sheer power, ability to run 6 video cards in BOTH SLI & CROSSFIRE configurations, an amazing BIOS, easy to use OC options, it's one of the top performing boards right now for the price, and not to mention a kick a$$ sound card.

This truly offers future proofing options - where as the UD3R is a kick a$$ board, but its design doesn't offer that much upreadability options.
 
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As far as I know, SLI has no bearing (advantage) on any graphics "ws" build ... Does not make CUDA any faster, and is not required for monitor ganging.

... I'll let you know in about a week, for sure. I have two ZOTAC 240s headed my way and I am VERY curious to see how simple or difficult or limited my 3xHDMI setup will exploit those cards (drivers).

SHADOW says that he actually unhooks the SLI bridge, to do graphics/edit, and hooks it back on (the SLI bridge) when he wants to game.

... I think SLI actually is NOT advisable, for muli-mon graphics/edit and productivity/trader rigs.

= Al =
 
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Thanks again guys

I meant to say the MSI board has a nice sound card as well ( not video card )

The newest reviewer for the MSI board wrote this, which confirms my concerns with the Gigabyte boards....

Pros: Rock solid, top quality components. There aren't any better x58 boards out there. If you want the best board, this is it! I first bought GA-X58a-UD5 from another place. I took the board back and received a refund, and waited and waited until this board was listed at Newegg. I think I was one of the first to receive it.... I got the board, and set it up. This board has hi-c capacitors which has higher voltage fluctuation tolerances and will last many, many, time over. I've installed it, now my computer is running sooo much cooler, and it's completely silent.

I am running the board with 24GB G.Skills ram (bought here at Newegg) and core i7 930. Windows 7 Ultimate w/ Freenas running under VMWare w/ (12) x 1TB disks and Dual Enermax Revolution85+ 1050 (2100watts of power). The overclocking options are incredible. OC Genie is also amazing! I now have the ultimate machine that I can run 24x7 serving files as well as occasional high frame-rate gaming.
Cons: None!
Other Thoughts: The Gigabyte boards, especially the UD3 series has a serious problem with high pitch whining noise coming from CPU socket area. Coal Whine? Only way to reduce the high pitch noise is to disable C1E power saving feature. And for some people, even this workaround doesn't fix the problem. I had the same issue, and tried everything. It seems this type of problem are pervasive across many boards... Tried different beta bioses, and several other methods, but it didn't fix the issue for me. So far this board is silent, cool and running beautifully!
 
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Yep - quad SLI is not supported - but the board will support 3 Dual Socket cards easily - no other board in this price range can handle that.

The UD3R only has 2 PCI-E slots, plus the many issues reported makes me weary of getting this board.

I know the MSI is too much MOBO for me right now -but it seems to be the most solid board, with easy OC options, amazing Bios, runs cooler and quieter then the other boards, etc, etc, etc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP96duB9FZw

Gkay09 you pointed me down this road - so I'm holding you responsible young man - lol - all jokes aside, I had read up on this board previously, and for me it seems to have the best future proofing options.

Right now - I'm happy with the video card I'm getting, ( Though I started looking at the GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) and even had it in my cart to see how much this build would come to - and with the Fermi it brings this build to an even $2k )

Down the road, if I want to turn this into a gaming rig, this board will give me many options and support. Where as most other boards are very limited in their PCI-E design for example, and that doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling inside, where as the MSI board has lots of options, is a better build, runs cooler, etc etc. 😉

I like knowing that I have options, and don't like feeling limited, and having regrets. It's a $100 peace of mind which you can't really put a price on.
 
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I purchased the Sentry 2 after reading some reviews that were really down on the Sentry. I can't comment on the longevity of the Sentry 2, as my build has only been up for about a month now.

However, it does look really nice, and works as advertised. It has both molex & 3-pin connectors.
 
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Sorry to just jump in here at the end, but I currently have an AMD based video editing machine using Premiere and After Effects, running XP Pro. UNSTABLE! I'm glad you went with the Intel chip, especially if your going to use Windows 7.
Anyway, to make this even easier, do what I'm doing.....research the companies that do this for a living and build NLE video systems. You will find NOW that they've abandoned the AMD for Intel, and you'll see what MB's, RAM, and other components they're using. Seems like a no brainer, since you can see almost every piece of hardware they choose, and the other options they offer. Here's two links to such companies, and a link from an Adobe forum on thorough reccomendations.
http://www.thedvshop.com/
http://www.advanceddesignky.com/
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/433549

You'll probably want to take their reccomendation in that you need to decide on whether the computer is going to be built for editing or gaming. Overclocking not reccomended for obvious stability issues. You should def be going for stability, reliability, and compatability for this build. I hope this helps!





 
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Thanks, that does help and will research them further.

I plan to overclock to a stable 3.8 - 4.0 GHZ max to have nice temps as well.

When you get your video card, make sure it supports OpenGL 3.2, you'll want that for sure.

I was ready to pull the trigger on this build yesterday, but I'm still researching a couple options. I'll be sure to update this thread once I purchase the items, and this rig is built.

....

I am now looking at this combo:

i7 930 + CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX Modular PSU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.419273
 
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The build has been purchased!

I have some final research to finalize, and it's in regards to upgrading to a better card now, instead of upgrading later. Considering a GTX 470 but it seems to run way too hot, and that's my concern for an every day work / video editing build.

i7 930 + ASUS P6X58D-E

CORSAIR XMS3 6GB 1600c7

120 GB SSD OCZ Vertex Series - Boot Drive

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 TB

ZOTAC GeForce GTS 250

CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-650HX ( If I upgrade - I'll need 750w )

NH-D14 Cooler + 2 x 140mm Noctua NF-P14 Exhaust fans + 120mm rear fan

Samsung DVD Burner
 
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Yeah I know - I been looking at too many gaming and power consumption benchmarks - LOL - hand slaps face, snaps back to reality...

What about the heat that the 470 generates? It seems to run way too hot, and that's my concern for an every day work / video editing build...

I wonder if the 460 will be out this month... a $300 price point would be much sweeter, and hopefully it will run cooler, that would be a bonus.
 
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Fact is ... My passive 240s are just fine (faster than 9500) for edit and photoshop and lot's of great games ...

... Now, the 9800GT-EE is a graphics-specific modification of an evoled gaming card (9800 was/is the TOP of it's range ... Quite adequate and STILL going into pro turnkey edit and graphics pre-builts ... to this day and beyond.

Your 250 is a bit faster than they 9800 ... a bit more modern ... breathes a little better and prolly more quiet at idle.

The 250 *WILL* GAME (well) and *WILL* go SLI (on YOUR mobo) ... about $100

Time to stop chasing your tail and go with what you got ... 460 WOULD be great and very tempting but REALLY ... Even at $300, the 460 is $200 (3x) more than the 250 and the 250 is already faster than a 9800-EE and has 2x the memory of a QuadroFX 580 (pro edit).

250 is NOT a waste of cash ... You won't need to upgrade soon and the 460 will be out and cheap and "well tamed", in 18+ months. Upgrade takes 10 minutes total, too.

= I'm jus' SAY-in' =

 
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Ahh - ok - makes sense - I just read some review that the 250 is pretty loud, and goes against my "quiet" computing goals, so we'll see how loud it really is.

Also, THIS got me thinking...



:kaola:
 
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btw - the reason why I say the 360 is better is because you can mod the 360 and burn games for it, where as you can't with the ps3

my buddies have a ps3, and we've played the same games side by side, and you really can't tell a difference between the 2, they're pretty identical.

Some games play better on the 360

Some games play better on the PS3

Overall, they're both identical graphics wise. Neither has the edge over the other.

However, when you take costs into consideration, with the PS3, you HAVE to buy every single game, thus, the 360 wins. :)

For me, it makes sense, I have 100+ games, yet, there's only 1 game I play regularly, and can't get enough of, Unreal Tournament 3.
 
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Just watched a video review for UT3 ... So much for "The Tree of Life"! huh? ...

... Does not your wife get annoyed with all that destructive karma/energy ???

*MY* favorite style game (after realistic combat flight sims) is of the fps mech-warrior type ... Where you operate a suit of battle armor with sheids and weaps and you might have jump-jets but I just think the concept of being a "battle systems operator" palays out better than to have "exposed flesh" ... That way it is easier to "digest" battle damage ... I mean, injuries to armor do not "hurt", so it is easier for me to believe the experience than if I was supposed to be gushing blood from a head-wound.

I also like the idea (with mech warrior type games) that you are an independent merc and you can buy repairs and weaps and features (like jump-jets) with your earnings.

I really would like to try playing on-line, in a "meritocracy", where you get teamed up with players at your own skill level (and MATURITY, ahem). Never played on-line ... would be GREAT for Air Combat and drone ops.

I have also been looking for a truly realistic Air Traffic Control Sim. Clues?

= Al =
 
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