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i'm sorry folk i was looking at the card not the oracle text ! my bad !
"Zoe Stephenson" <zrs1@uk.ac.york.reversed> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> Chris Mattern <matternc@comcast.net> sent:
>> Mjolnir wrote:
>
>>> -I wouldn't call it "combo" - Hokori is not like Winter Orb, since
>>> you cannot
>>> -tap it (with Icy Manipulator, for example) during your opponent's end
>>> step -to "turn it off" and let your lands untap normally.
>>>
>>> ?? even tought winter orb is tapped or not it still does not let you
>>> untap
>>> more than one land
>
>> Winter Orb:
>> Artifact
>> As long as Winter Orb is untapped, players can't untap more than one land
>> during their untap step.
>
>> Sure sounds to me like you untap all your lands if the Orb is tapped.
>
> Yup. Remember, when you're doing the untap action you first work out
> from the current state, which things are going to be able to untap;
> then, you untap all of those permanents at the same time. So, if you
> have a tapped Winter Orb, it doesn't limit the lands you yourself can
> untap, even though the very next thing that happens will cause there
> to be such a limit.
>
> --
> -- zoe