Newbie PC Build

[Amy_6_]

Hi guys I am new to building a PC. Any tips and advice and or ongoing help would be greatly appreciated.

I don’t really have a budget but under $2000. So far I came up with a full atx tower and the i7 8700k. I wanted a new system (i7) but with all this am willing to change. I’m more I don’t know about why this model and not that one. I think that’s where I’m stuck.

I want it for gaming and net use.

I get my CPU and Motherboard have to be compatible for sure (socket).

Thank you In Advanc

 

[xvid678]

Hi.

Need to know more to help you. Which country are you at? What kind of games you intend to play? What will be your monitor and it's refresh rate?

 

[xhgaerlan]

So you'd most likely be wanting the Z370 chipset motherboards for around ~$100-$200. This allows you to squeeze more performance out of your CPU via overclocking unlike other overclocking incompatible motherboards.
Depending on if you have a storage drive already from another computer, I'd say an SSD boot + HDD storage combo is the best way to go around this for ~$100-$150.
16GB of DDR4 is probably the most reasonable for you unless you do heavy web browsing and want to dish out ~$350-$400 for 32GB of RAM instead of about ~$150-$200 for 16GB.
Since your budget is pretty solid, you could even get a GTX 1080 Ti for around $699 MSRP but they usually go for around $800-1000 now.
A solid 600W-750W PSU is good for this build, but a 1000W will do you one better if you want to upgrade in the future to an SLI rig with a second GTX 1080 Ti. These usually go for around ~$60-100 for 600W-750W. 1000W usually goes for ~$100-150.
An AIO water cooling solution is probably the best option to keep your CPU at a reasonable temperature at ~$100-$150.
As far as the case goes, make sure everything you have, especially the graphics card and the AIO water cooling radiator, fits. These can cost anywhere from ~$60-$200.

Best case scenario, lowest build cost is $1619 with 16GB of RAM.
Worst case scenario, highest build cost is $2600 with 32GB of RAM.
On average, with the price of GPUs being finicky, the average price you'd spend is around $1800. If you need help on which brands to pick, I can offer help with that as well.

 

[AniChatt]

Check this out,
PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RzFFsZ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RzFFsZ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($347.00 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H115i 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($131.18 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($189.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($200.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($114.94 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($107.69 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB ROG STRIX Video Card ($595.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($88.01 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($81.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($95.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1953.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-03 08:37 EDT-0400

Don't buy full tower if you are not interested to make a custom water loop and super crazy stuff. It is the most insane build right now available under 2000 USD. And of course that AIO is necessary to keep the cpu cool if you try to push it close to 5.00 GHz.

 

[J_E_D_70]

As above - do you need a monitor? If not, what is your resolution and refresh rate? Do you plan to upgrade the monitor soon if you do have one?

Assuming you have a monitor, I’d take Ani’s build but instead of the ssd/hdd combo would get a 1TB Samsung 860 Evo SSD (or Crucial MX500). That’s enough for a ton of games and in real life the speed difference between sata3 and nvme is not very noticable.

Edit: Just personal preference on the recommended change! I hate spinning disks except as backup

 

[AniChatt]

J_E_D_70 Agreed actually I thought about a newbie
But again I don't like to attach two different cables to add any form of sata based drive and I personally like m.2 all the way. Less cable, less mess and less chances of troubleshooting. Here is another dimension if he is not willing to overclock the CPU,

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LgMJyX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LgMJyX/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($298.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H75 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($74.38 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG Strix H370-F Gaming ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($183.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($229.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card ($814.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($88.01 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($81.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($95.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2008.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-03 12:04 EDT-0400
H75 can be compromised but it is to keep the CPU super cool and aesthetics since it is a 2000USD build

 

[AniChatt]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m9634q
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m9634q/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($347.00 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H115i 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($131.18 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($189.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($229.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB ROG STRIX Video Card ($595.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($88.01 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($81.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($95.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1919.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-03 12:09 EDT-0400

 

[profoundnoah]

As J_E_D said, all of the previously listed builds could be overkill for your needs. What's important here is what resolution you're running the game at. If you're running it at 1080p, then I have a recommendation. If you absolutely MUST have the PC before August and you're running the games at 1080p, invest in a GTX 1060 to hold you over. The newest Graphics Cards are rumored to be revealed around August, so it's better not to go all out until we know more about the upcoming generation.

 

[Amy_6_]

Hi.

Need to know more to help you. Which country are you at? What kind of games you intend to play? What will be your monitor and it's refresh rate?

Hi, sorry for delay. Im from Australia (victoria). Intend to play steam games (flatout, COD, NBA etc).Monitor no idea but the one I have (which I may keep is, BenQ 24" Full HD (60hz is the refresh rate).

 

[Amy_6_]

xhgaerlan (sorry i can't seem to answer individually. (just cause I don't know). Why the Z370? Does overclocking happen to anyone at anytime?

I do have an older HD (Seagate 4tb), not sure if I want that one might get another one (even same model etc) start fresh. Defs SSD to boot up and run.

No heavy browsing but torrents are involved too. Bit of work may occur which is web based but not a lot.
I would like to get the better parts but (unfortunately I may see how it all ads up) might cut somewhere but depending. Which is annoying I know.

Do I need cooling?

My case at the moment is good but heavy thats everyone. cords are just stuffed in. SO although I probs do have space I dont feel like it with the cords. Oh and the placement of parts in a case. I haven't tinkered alot with this but I have the Fan then across from that Is the hard drives, probably with a better solution for the cords that would be fine.

Thank you for your help. As I've not done this im also interest in the why this part etc.

Thank you again

 

[Amy_6_]

@AniChatt and J_E_D_70 thank you for that I will look into it for sure. I do have a monitor which is still newish. The Benq (24" Full HD 60hz refresh rate). Would keep it I dont need to change it.

Thanks for the Tower tip too I've had a mini which I loved (gone now lol) so much easier than this heavy big thing but don't really need to move it anywhere.

Thank you again.

 

[Amy_6_]

@profoundnoah Sorry I would not have a clue I just play it lol as it starts.. Just want to have a good beast to keep me going for a while something Im gonna love and love and not get sick of it or think I need to change it within a few months. A part from my very poor crappy crappy internet. lol.

 

[profoundnoah]

Internet is a giant component of gaming, so you'll definitely want to upgrade that. A 1080 in any of the previous builds listed will suit you just fine then, just unsure if you're going to be more reliant on GPU advances or not.

 

[coozie7]

@ Amy_6_: If you are going to stay with a 60Hz, 1080 ( HD ) display:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600 3.1GHz 6-Core Processor ($304.00 @ Shopping Express)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($55.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($159.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($253.32 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($239.00 @ PLE Computers)
Storage: Toshiba - 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.00 @ Skycomp Technology)
Video Card: GALAX - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB EX Video Card ($599.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case ($85.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($135.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24D5MT DVD/CD Writer ($16.00 @ Shopping Express)
Total: $1933.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-09 04:11 AEST+1000

A few slightly odd choices so here's why I made them:

A non 'K' CPU, I don't think you'll want to overclock, and the non 'K' part is a little cheaper.

A added CPU cooler despite the fact the on 'K' CPU actually ships with one because the stock cooler gets noisy under load, also that little H7 does a better job.

Yep, I included a full ATX sized 'Z' ( overclock friendly ) motherboard because it has better connectivity than 'B' or 'H' motherboards, supports faster memory and can handle an overclock friendly CPU if you decide to upgrade in the future.

Fast memory because it helps a little with everything.

A big, fast SSD and normal HDD combination cover all the bases; Fast boot with room for some games and other software on the fast drive with plenty of slower storage for less speed critical files.

A GTX1070 is a bit too much for a 60Hz 1080 monitor and significantly more expensive than a GTX1060 but is a better option for long term ownership.

Nice, very well ventilated case, although you might want to add a 3 140mm fans into the build and replace those that come with the case to improve cooling and cut the noise.

Included a DVD drive just in case.

No Windows license, prices are all over the place and there is 3 options to choose from: Download only, DVD install media or USB install media.
If you have access to another system, I'd go for the download option and download to a USB stick, which will become your install media.
The DVD option will require a DVD drive and is actually quite slow compared with USB installs.
Although it's dead handy, the USB install media is the most expensive option.