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WiFi 7's real problem is there is no standard. It can be WiFi 7 and still not have 6GhZ. Its a joke. Until the standard is an actual standard they are just posting uupdates of wh at they can make if you pay enough.
 
This is stupid, latency is performance. Once you reach a certain level of bandwidth, it's the most important metric of performance.
This is why you don't game on wireless, latency and jitter. A gig connection with 150-200ms first hop latency is still a poor connection IMO. Fight me.
 
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usertests said:
There are plenty of standards with optional bits, Bluetooth is far worse.

Congress was recently trying to legislate the 6 GHz band away from Wi-Fi, so there's that.

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Senate GOP budget bill has little-noticed provision that could hurt your Wi-Fi

Cruz bill could take 6 GHz spectrum away from Wi-Fi, give it to mobile carriers.
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Yeah, 6Ghz Wifi is currently "under review" i.e. currently banned, in India because telecom operators lobbied against it saying that modem manufacturers need to bid for operations in the 6Ghz spectrum because its unfair for them to compete with.
 
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I don't care about all these geek's staff and descriptions . STILL LOOKING FOR A DECENT ROUTER , WITH RANGE OF 300 meters ( 900 feet ) .
 
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I don't care about all these geek's staff and descriptions . STILL LOOKING FOR A DECENT ROUTER , WITH RANGE OF 300 meters ( 900 feet ) .
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Does it really matter if you find a router that could go 900 feet. Your end device is half the connection. If it also can not go 900 feet then it all doesn't matter.

The main reason nothing goes that distance is because all wifi no matter what silly number they put on it is still limited by the transmit power allowed and that has not changed since the beginning of wifi. All they have been doing with the newer wifi is changing the way the encode the data into the radio signals. The distance the radio signals go has not changed. This is purely a function of output power and how much signal is absorbed by everything between including the air.
 
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LCT_ said:
This is stupid, latency is performance. Once you reach a certain level of bandwidth, it's the most important metric of performance.
This is why you don't game on wireless, latency and jitter. A gig connection with 150-200ms first hop latency is still a poor connection IMO. Fight me.
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My son games on wireless just fine. You don't competitively game on wireless. Wi-Fi 6 and 6E will get far lower than 150-200 ms, especially if gaming PC is in the same room as the Wi-Fi router.

More reliable Wi-Fi is always a win IMO. Wi-Fi 6 seemed to take a step backwards somehow... I don't remember so many devices dropping the connection and asking for the WPA2/3 PSK again after they just authenticated and were working for a few minutes. Seen the issue with different drivers, different Wi-Fi adapter makes and models, and differen't AP's. Didn't have this many issues with Wi-Fi 5 (802.11ac).
 
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My son games on wireless just fine. You don't competitively game on wireless. Wi-Fi 6 and 6E will get far lower than 150-200 ms, especially if gaming PC is in the same room as the Wi-Fi router.

More reliable Wi-Fi is always a win IMO. Wi-Fi 6 seemed to take a step backwards somehow... I don't remember so many devices dropping the connection and asking for the WPA2/3 PSK again after they just authenticated and were working for a few minutes. Seen the issue with different drivers, different Wi-Fi adapter makes and models, and differen't AP's. Didn't have this many issues with Wi-Fi 5 (802.11ac).
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There is quite a difference between wifi6 and wifi6e. So if you are "really" running wifi6 it is attempting to use 160mhz radio bands in the 5ghz block. The problem is the 5ghz band is already over crowded and when it attempts to use 160mhz blocks it is also overlapping restricted radio bands where it must monitor for usage. If a tv station flips on their weather radar which is a common use of this part of the 5ghz spectrum the router must stop using it.

It is more likely that it is just simple interference and wifi6 attempting to use a much more dense data encoding. If it gets too many errors it will reduce the encoding speed. It should though in theory just drop back and function like wifi5. Hard to say why it would be asking for the keys. It should actually roam between different radio sources without asking for new log in so just reconnecting to the same router should not be a issue.

What maybe happening if you are running wifi6e is it is hopping between the 5g and 6ghz radio bands. It should also do this transparently but very technically the router radios have different mac addresses and it must recalculate the session key.....note this is the session key the preshared key can be the same on both radios.

Maybe use different SSID for the radios so you always know where things connect.
 
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bill001g said:
Does it really matter if you find a router that could go 900 feet. Your end device is half the connection. If it also can not go 900 feet then it all doesn't matter.

The main reason nothing goes that distance is because all wifi no matter what silly number they put on it is still limited by the transmit power allowed and that has not changed since the beginning of wifi. All they have been doing with the newer wifi is changing the way the encode the data into the radio signals. The distance the radio signals go has not changed. This is purely a function of output power and how much signal is absorbed by everything between including the air.
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you can only do so much with 1 watt
 
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