Question No monitor signal with Sapphire RX 6600 via PCIe riser - - is the PSU inadequate ?

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Hi everybody!

Just built a new computer in a small case (Fractal Ridge), specs:
AsRock MSI B550M ITX,
AMD 6600X w stock cooler,
2x 8GB Kingston FURY Beast DDR4-3600 DIMM CL17-21-21- Dual Kit,
2TB Lexar NM710 SSD, M.2 2280 PCIe 4,
Sapphire Radeon RX 6600 Pulse,
450W BeQuiet! SFX PSU.

I was concerned about using this small PSU, but the calculations were about 370W, so it should work fine. "Should" being the operating word.

I turn the comp on, the CPU fan starts spinning, so motherboard 12V pins work fine, as does the 20+4 connection, since the power button led and button itself work + 2 chassis fans work fine.
The GPU fans do not start spinning, being connected to the 6+2 PCIe power cable, and the cards HDMI doesn't send any signal to the screen. The card is connected via the PCIe 4.0 riser brackets to the motherboard, and I reseated it again to ensure it is connected ok.

I have put the GPU on an older comp with PCIe 3.0 slot and the fans start up, but there is no signal on the HDMI cable. I assume it's the low PSU on that comp, as even its iGPU HDMI port doesn't share any signal. This comp boots without a problem with its iGPU via HDMI without this GPU installed.

On the new build, I tried a combo of only one RAM stick, ressetling both, ressetling in different slots, I have also unscrewed a bit of the CPU fan, as there seemed to be some solutions out there due to the fan being too forcebly connected to the motherboard.
I have obviously tried other HDMI cables, made sure the TV works on a third comp.

I am prepared to do a BIOS flash install upgrade should this be an issue for either RAM or CPU, but without an iGPU, and the GPU not sharing a signal, I can't get to that step, should it be required.

I don't have a DisplayPort cable or a monitor to use it on, so I can't really check (quickly), whether the HDMI port on the GPU is faulty.

I can only think of
(1) dissassembling the whole thing and plugging the GPU directly into motherboards PCIe 4.0, so assuming one of the 2-part PCIe riser from Fractal is faulty;
(2) using a 500W ATX PSU, to see if the extra 50W helps boot the GPU;
(3) buying a bigger PSU, displayport compatible screen and cable to test other ports.

Will be doing them in these steps, but since I've been at this for more than a day now, please let me know if you see any silly mistakes on my part that could be a simpler answer.
I was planning on buying a new 4k TV in the next week or two anyway, but most of them don't have displayports :/

Thank you in advance!
Kind regards
 
the sapphire site does recommend 500w psu for that GPU ..

that said is that the problem i really dont know but i personally wouldnt go under a 750 gold for anything these days just to be on the safe side !!

It could be any of a number of things but i would start with a decent 750w psu and work my way back from there 450w in 2023 is very very low !!
 
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Well, I might have been mislead by tech power up page, where it suggested 300W PSU could be enough, since the GPU uses only 132-137W :)

PC part picker estimated the wattage under 300W as well, not sure the bellow link comes through:

I've connected the GPU directly into the motherboard, same issues as with the PCIe riser, so no fans spinning or signal via hdmi.

Will try and connect a bigger PSU or get one, if available, in a shop today.
 
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Well, here's the thing. I bought a new 750W PSU, connected it, and ... the GPU still sends no signal and the ventilators on it don't spin.
The PSU is not faulty, the CPU fan spins, as do the other case fans and the case LED, so the motherboard is getting juice. I assume if it was the problem with the CPU, I'd be able to see that on the screen and the GPU might work.

So now I think it's either the GPU, the motherboard's PCIe slot or the PCIe riser from the case. Does anybody have any other ideas?

I assume it is unlikely the fans on the GPU would not spin if it was something else, like RAM, CPU ...?
Thank you in advance, kind regards.
 
Well, here's the thing. I bought a new 750W PSU, connected it, and ... the GPU still sends no signal and the ventilators on it don't spin.
The PSU is not faulty, the CPU fan spins, as do the other case fans and the case LED, so the motherboard is getting juice. I assume if it was the problem with the CPU, I'd be able to see that on the screen and the GPU might work.

So now I think it's either the GPU, the motherboard's PCIe slot or the PCIe riser from the case. Does anybody have any other ideas?

I assume it is unlikely the fans on the GPU would not spin if it was something else, like RAM, CPU ...?
Thank you in advance, kind regards.
Hello mate. I run a couple of I game 1080ti's for digital art, etc and they generally don't spin their fans until they heat up. They light up but don't spin on startup. I'm assuming that it may be that the gpu isn't being recognised due to hardware changes. If you unplug all your monitor cables from the monitor and GPU, unplug the power leads and leave for a minute. Connect up the monitor and GPU and boot up the PC. Then plug in the monitor and switch on. I had to do this after my monitor failed to recognise my GPU after I was messing about with it and pcie risers. Worth a try.
 
Will try and connect a bigger PSU or get one, if available, in a shop today.
Honestly, I don't think that the problem is your PSU. It's far more likely that there's something wrong with either the card itself or your HDMI cable. Try using a different HDMI cable. If that doesn't fix the problem, then try installing the card in a friend's PC and see if you can get a splash screen. If you can, then it's most likely the card. Be Quiet! is known for making reliable PSUs so I would be shocked if that were the problem.

You should always first try to solve the problem without throwing parts at it. It's a lot easier on your wallet that way because more often than not, it's just not needed. 😉👍