Not a great time for new builds

[Deepon Mitra]

Hi All,

Probably not the right time to be building entry or enthusiast level PC is it?

Let's discuss price changes and how or when prices may stabilize once again.

Thanks!

 

[jaslion]

Hi All,

Probably not the right time to be building entry or enthusiast level PC is it?

Let's discuss price changes and how or when prices may stabilize once again.

Thanks!

The mining craze won't stop for quite a while so nows as good a time as any if you need it soon. Coffee lake wil probably launch in the next couple of months so if it's not urgent waiting is the best choice.

 

[Dunlop0078]

Depends on your budget. GPU's are high right now (but not all of them) because of miners, and RAM and SSD prices are getting higher because of a shortage.

If your budget is high enough that you are considering a GPU like a GTX 1080 or 1080 ti, they are still priced reasonably and don't seem to be affected much by miners.

 

[ohiou_grad_2006]

If you are toward the lower end of the scale, looks like lately 1060's have been available as well as 1050ti's.

I was noticing ssd prices were way up.

I think though if doing a build I'd consider avoiding intel right now and look at AMD's ryzen cpus. Intel is talking higher core count cpus across the board which will almost certainly mean new socket, and new boards. If AMD is telling the truth, the AM4 socket is supposed to last until 2020.

 

[Dunlop0078]

If you are toward the lower end of the scale, looks like lately 1060's have been available as well as 1050ti's.

I was noticing ssd prices were way up.

I think though if doing a build I'd consider avoiding intel right now and look at AMD's ryzen cpus. Intel is talking higher core count cpus across the board which will almost certainly mean new socket, and new boards. If AMD is telling the truth, the AM4 socket is supposed to last until 2020.

1060s are available but the prices are quite a bit higher than they should be. 1050 ti's are available and selling for a reasonable price.

If all the rumors are true coffee lake will be on LGA 1151, which I am very happy about. There has also been talk about coffee lake cpu's being complaitble with Z170 and Z270 mobo's which I am also very happy about.

 

[ohiou_grad_2006]

Good to know on the last point then. Admittedly I am more of an AMD fan, but seems like up until skylake and kaby, every time you turn around intel had newer sockets.

 

[Dunlop0078]

Good to know on the last point then. Admittedly I am more of an AMD fan, but seems like up until skylake and kaby, every time you turn around intel had newer sockets.

Well hopefully they are feeling the pressure from AMD. And their PR lately has been awful so I think it's about time they do something consumer friendly.

 

[ohiou_grad_2006]

Will be interesting. Was reading that AMD may be releasing Ryzen 2000 series early next year also with 5-15% ipc improvements and then maybe moving to zen 2 on 7nm toward the end of the year.

 

[DSzymborski]

If you are toward the lower end of the scale, looks like lately 1060's have been available as well as 1050ti's.

I was noticing ssd prices were way up.

I think though if doing a build I'd consider avoiding intel right now and look at AMD's ryzen cpus. Intel is talking higher core count cpus across the board which will almost certainly mean new socket, and new boards. If AMD is telling the truth, the AM4 socket is supposed to last until 2020.

1060s are available but the prices are quite a bit higher than they should be. 1050 ti's are available and selling for a reasonable price.

If all the rumors are true coffee lake will be on LGA 1151, which I am very happy about. There has also been talk about coffee lake cpu's being complaitble with Z170 and Z270 mobo's which I am also very happy about.

Actually, it's the opposite; it's looking like Coffee Lake will *not* be compatible with existing motherboards.

 

[Dunlop0078]

Depends on which rumor you look at. This article came out 6 days ago and says, "The chip will be compatible with the LGA 1151 socket and rumors are that board makers will extend support of Coffee Lake onto 200-series and even 100-series platforms". It came from WCCFTech so take it with a grain of salt, but I am choosing to be hopeful.

http://wccftech.com/intel-coffee-lake-8th-gen-core-i7-8700k-performance-specs-leak/

 

[geofelt]

If you have a need now... Build now.

If you wait for the next best thing, you will wait forever.

If you need a budget build, kaby lake and the HD630 graphics will get you started.
That lets you better evaluate how strong you need for graphics.

If you have a need for batch apps that can run many threads, it is hard to beat ryzen at many price points.
The coffee lake processors will likely be priced competitively, but so far, there looks to be no answer to the massive threadripper for such apps.

If your need is for gaming, kaby lake and ryzen have suitably fast single thread performance in mid range builds.
It is only when paired with a GTX1080ti card that one can use the 5.0 clock of I7-7700K.

 

[ohiou_grad_2006]

I would say however, a good friend of mine built a ryzen 1700x rig and went overkill on his gpu and bought the 1080ti, running the 1700x at stock i think, he loves it.

 

[ohiou_grad_2006]

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3217673/computers/intel-images-confirm-6-core-core-i7-desktop-processors-new-motherboard-requirement.html

 

[Deepon Mitra]

Speaking of 10XX series from nVidia...any comments on the Vega series by AMD??