News Nvidia Confirms: RTX 3090 Performance 10% To 15% Faster Than RTX 3080 in 4K Gaming, Limited Supply

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They going to release something in-between the 3080 and 3090?

3080 Ti ???

it is very strong rumor and says that it will come with 20GB VRAM. But looking at the low 15% performance of the 3090 , I don think that nividia would release 3080 Ti before 3090 Ti or what ever name it will get .. I think Nvidia are waiting for AMD to decide the next step.

 

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isnt 3090 aimed for 8K? so why no 8K comparison

Because they dont want to hurt 3090 sales .

 

[TheHughMan]

RTX 3080 $700 RTX 3090 $1500-$2000? That's $100 more for Performance, $700-$1200 more for Bragging Rights! That's The Jensen Wayyyy...

 

[farmfowls]

They going to release something in-between the 3080 and 3090?

3080 Ti ???

Yeah the 20GB will probably come depending on Big Navi and I'm thinking they'll brand it as a Super as to not piss off the early adopters who got the 10GB model. I mean it'll piss them off anyway but it kind of clouds the room with smoke. I think they'll have to give it different branding for that reason alone. Kind of follows what people have excopeted with them dropping the Ti terminology. But in terms of extra performance on the next 3080 variant, I really doubt it as going from a 3080 to a 3090 is only 10-15%. So there's not much room if any to put something in between in terms of clock but there is room for VRAM. And I am waiting on the 20GB model, so hopefully it shows up.

 

[cryoburner]

I wonder if RTX 3090 can consistently hold 144 fps at 2560x1440 2K resolution with highest graphics when setting fps limit.

Most definitely not, at least not in some of the most demanding titles. It likely won't even manage to consistently hold 60fps at native 1440p in something like Control at the highest settings with raytracing enabled. Even using DLSS to upscale from 1080p is unlikely to consistently keep you above 100fps, let alone 144fps.

Of course, super-high frame rates in those kinds of atmospheric single-player titles are arguably not as important, and with adaptive sync there's not so much need to keep frame rates locked to a certain level. Because of that though, the difference between a 3080 and a 3090 is likely to be mostly imperceptible in practice, especially at 1440p or below. The 3090 might get around 10% more performance at 4K, but at 1440p those differences should be even smaller due to games running into CPU limitations at higher frame rates.

We will likely see games get more demanding on CPU resources too as they start targeting the new console hardware in the coming years, so maintaining 144FPS even at lower resolutions is likely to prove futile. If a game developer targets a 30fps experience on the new console hardware, you might struggle to even hit 60fps on the fastest desktop processors, which are currently not much more than 25%-30% faster. It's a lot easier to push high frame rates when developers are limiting themselves to what the ancient Jaguar processors in the existing consoles can do.

 

[watzupken]

So glad did nto cancel my pre order now not kinda worth buying 3090 just for extra GB and 15% that GPU might now use! My cod game uses 8GB on ultra 4k

To be honest, this should not come as a surprise. The specs for the RTX 3090 is just modestly better than a 3080. The higher VRAM may help, but looking at existing games, the cases are very rare. In fact, I actually feel the results from Nvidia are on the optimistic side of things. I feel outside of the usual games that Nvidia tested, the improvement may even be a single digit percentage. We can wait and see if independent reviews can confirm if it is really a 15% improvement over the 3080.

 

[tummybunny]

RTX 3080 $700 RTX 3090 $1500-$2000? That's $100 more for Performance, $700-$1200 more for Bragging Rights! That's The Jensen Wayyyy...

This!!! So much this!

People with top end PC equipment spend 10 times more mentioning it on internet forums than using it as far as I can tell.

 

[watzupken]

I wonder if RTX 3090 can consistently hold 144 fps at 2560x1440 2K resolution with highest graphics when setting fps limit.

I don't know the answer to this question, but I wonder what is the point of holding FPS consistent at 144 FPS though? Monitors running at 144Hz always have a VRR feature because there is no way you can play all games at native resolution at a very high FPS. Unless you are playing very old or less GPU taxing games, or at 1080p with a fast CPU.

 

[Jim90]

The serious problem for Nvidia is just what, exactly, CAN they put between the 3080 and 3090 when they themselves have just admitted that the 3090 is only 10-15% faster (i.e. 0-15%) than the 3080 ?

If RDNA2 does 'perform', it looks like AMD have a unique opportunity here: the wise will wait till both companies have their initial sets out and reviewed before buying.

 

[Olle P]

Because you wouldn't want to be playing in 8k on anything slower than a 3090. 3090 realistically isn't fast enough for consistent 8k either. ...

For typical users at this price level I'd say you're right, but from a technical perspective...

I'm a keen follower of the Venezuelan youtuber LowSpecGamer who does put things into a proper perspective. By his standards you can probably have 8K resolution for gaming at decidedly lesser hardware, provided the acceptance of some circumstances:

1. Framerate target is to stay above 15 fps. If (mostly) above 30 fps it's great!
2. Eyecandy has to go. General settings "low", and then shadows turned off completely to reduce GPU load further. Possibly also other features tweaked in the INI-file to up the framerate, if required.

 

[sizzling]

I don't know the answer to this question, but I wonder what is the point of holding FPS consistent at 144 FPS though? Monitors running at 144Hz always have a VRR feature because there is no way you can play all games at native resolution at a very high FPS. Unless you are playing very old or less GPU taxing games, or at 1080p with a fast CPU.

I game at 1440p 144Hz and have G-Sync switched off. When getting over 100fps it makes no visual difference and adds a tiny amount of input lag. With a 3080 I’m yet to find a game I play that cannot hold >130 FPS at max settings and RT on.

 

[sizzling]

The serious problem for Nvidia is just what, exactly, CAN they put between the 3080 and 3090 when they themselves have just admitted that the 3090 is only 10-15% faster (i.e. 0-15%) than the 3080 ?

If RDNA2 does 'perform', it looks like AMD have a unique opportunity here: the wise will wait till both companies have their initial sets out and reviewed before buying.

I am hoping RDNA2 does perform and gives NVidia some competition. However I wasn’t going to wait a few months after launch to see if AMD have pulled their socks up with driver support. While NVidia’s drivers are not perfect I do assign them greater value that is worth paying more for.

 

[manzooka]

With a 3080 I’m yet to find a game I play that cannot hold >130 FPS at max settings and RT on.

Control and MS Flight Sim to name two.

 

[thepersonwithaface45]

They sold out. Under 10 seconds.
Again.

 

[sizzling]

Control and MS Flight Sim to name two.

Fair point.

 

[hannibal]

The serious problem for Nvidia is just what, exactly, CAN they put between the 3080 and 3090 when they themselves have just admitted that the 3090 is only 10-15% faster (i.e. 0-15%) than the 3080 ?

If RDNA2 does 'perform', it looks like AMD have a unique opportunity here: the wise will wait till both companies have their initial sets out and reviewed before buying.

they can make 3080ti that has same memory bus as 3090 and that means 12gb of memory and cut down CUs to make it Little bit slower than 3090... so yeah... not much, but there is room in there for small tweaks.

 

[spongiemaster]

they can make 3080ti that has same memory bus as 3090 and that means 12gb of memory and cut down CUs to make it Little bit slower than 3090... so yeah... not much, but there is room in there for small tweaks.

What would be the point of that card if hell freezes over and AMD beats the 3090? Even if AMD manages to land a card between the 3080 and 3090 and prices it less than a 3080, there would still be no point to Nvidia squeezing a card between the 3080 and 3090 that costs more than the 3080.

 

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[hannibal]

What would be the point of that card if hell freezes over and AMD beats the 3090? Even if AMD manages to land a card between the 3080 and 3090 and prices it less than a 3080, there would still be no point to Nvidia squeezing a card between the 3080 and 3090 that costs more than the 3080.

the price... more speed than 3080 and sell it same price as 3080 was sold. As it has been said. Nvidia has no room to go up, 12gb of vram is enough from 2080ti and the small speed advantage you get help a Little bit. Rest is up the price. Release 3080ti 12gb at $700 and drop 3080 down enough if the competition gets too near!

 

[gio2vanni86]

Bad habit - expensive, power hungry, results in sometimes worse performance.

You clearly have a lot of extra money to throw around. Can I become your best friend sometime before Christmas?

I think i just prioritize my sli life more then anything. Although it would be a waste, it wont be a waste when folding. Benchmarks for RDR2 still benefits from SLI with two 3090's and i haven't even touched that game since i currently only get 30FPS in it. But sure you can be my friend idk what good its going to do you. I dont even sell my PC's that i dont use to my friends. They beg i laugh and say its MINE. My precious. I have a lot precious-es🤣😆

Nvidia has already announce end of SLI support by jan 2021. AMD has ended their crossfire support long ago....

Well i want see them END it completely by actually doing what they did on the 3080. Which is remove the bridge entirely. And make sure board partners stop using SLI on their boxes. Glad i still have all my sli bridges. I can see why a lot of them have gone up in price. This is going to be ancient history. Maybe it'll come back one day. I still feel this is a loss in sales in my honest opinion. Back in the 9800GTX days i had a part time job, those were still pricey cards at like two hundred something i spent on them. That was a good entry level card for the price. I literally doubled my performance having two. This option to phase sli hurts the company. Performance to scale was always pretty good when nvidia and developers were behind it. Good luck to me trying to get two 3090's let alone getting 1 seems like impossible this year. I'll have to build my pc with one of my 1080tis in it until i can get my hands on 2 3090's.

 

[Olle P]

the price... more speed than 3080 and sell it same price as 3080 was sold. ...

Won't happen!
The 3080 hasn't reached its right price yet, but partner cards have been sold at an introduction discount. Expect typical prices to be around $900 for the average cards, just so that all involved can have some profit margin. Given that availability is expected to stay low for another three months or so there's little incentive to reduce the margins further.
If you add more RAM the production cost goes up, and so will the retail prices.