Nvidia Ends Notorious GeForce Partner Program

[Plumboby]

wait for AMDS 7nm chips coming end of year with navi, it will smoke the competition its why Intel/ Nvidia are stealing AMD engineering team. When the 7nm chips hit & good drivers to start with both Intel & Nvidia be crapping themselves. Why are both companies gouging AMD trying to scab game titles to slow up AMD so they dont gain traction release a card that will be the next step ahead of both of the competitors.

 

[redgarl]

When AMD create a card that can actually beat nVidia, drivers that aren't trash and start support game developers with new tech, then I'll think about switching to AMD. - until then, i'll stick with the best, even if they are acting like a normal competitive corporate company...

You meaning what? A Titan or a 1080 TI?

RX Vega 56 and 64 are matching the 1070 and 1080.

On mid range, Polaris is sold out everywhere and priced at double the MSRP.

As for drivers... Nvidia with the 10 series is having huge issues. My EVGA 1080 FTW was dropping the video signal all the time due to resolution conflicts with Windows 10 at startup. It was also crashing when games were starting up and was a nightmare every time I had to adjust the resolution.

Did Nvidia paid you for spreading that non-sense?

 

[TJ Hooker]

Well, the difference between a ROG GTX-580 and a ROG Rx-580 is a lot less clear. Not to mention that you have things like the Zotac ZT-P10710G-10P, or other cases of the alphabet soup of model numbers, as well as things like Windforce OC 8G (Note that that Gigabyte card doesn't have much in the way of clarification as to which chipset it's using, until you get to disecting the model number Gigabyte GV-N1080WF3OC-8GD)

The GTX 580 and RX 580 are 7 years removed from each other. No one is realistically going to be in a situation where they're comparing two similar products and one has the GTX 580 and the other an RX 580.

Regarding the other examples you listed, have you actually seen those cards listed anywhere by their alphabet soup model number? Everywhere I look they're listed by an easily understandable name
Zotac ZT-P10710G-10P = GTX 1070 Ti Mini
Gigabyte GV-N1080WF3OC-8GD = GTX 1080 Windforce OC

I've also never seen a card simply listed "Windforce [OC]". It's always "[chipset model] Windforce OC"

And even if dealing with alphabet soup names was an issue for consumers, I don't remember reading anything about GPP that would have solved that. It was about creating gaming brands that used exclusively Geforce products: it would have helped eliminate any confusion about whether you were getting an AMD or Nvidia GPU (not that I think there was any to begin with), but I don't see what effect that would have on making it easier to identify exactly what Nvidia GPU you were getting.

 

[Thretosix]

I'm not siding with GPP, I'm just curious how this is any different than Apple/Android products and services? Buying cars with proprietary Apple/Android features. These days everything seems to be about exclusivity. The ultimate form of exclusivity is abandonment from everyone else.

 

[Thretosix]

I'm just curious about how the GPP is any different than Apple/Android platforms? For example Android Auto/Apple's Car Play. The last thing I would want to do is switch platforms to buy a car I wanted. I'm convinced I will not buy a car that exclusively supports one product over another. Just curious why the uproar about this but not other products and services that essentially do the same thing is okay.

 

[TJ Hooker]

I'm not siding with GPP, I'm just curious how this is any different than Apple/Android products and services? Buying cars with proprietary Apple/Android features. These days everything seems to be about exclusivity. The ultimate form of exclusivity is abandonment from everyone else.

I'm not familiar with such features, but I'm guessing that the same model of car could be purchased with either Apple or Android features? The difference is that Nvidia was incentivising partners to convert their "gaming" branded lineups to be *only* Nvidia. So it'd be like if Apple paid an auto manufacturer to only offer Apple integration integration on one of their popular model lines, and Android integration was relegated to a newly created model line that lacked the consumer recognition of the original line.

 

[Thretosix]

You'd be guessing wrong. It's one or the other for brands doing it. BMW is using Car Play where Honda is using Android Auto. I'm not going to go through the who list but the exclusivity is sickening. Both companies are guilty in my opinion but I just don't get how it was such a bad thing for NVidia yet when someone else does something we just turn and look the other way. This world will be a lot better when people don't think they have to be exclusive, if we were more inclusive everyone would be working together instead of competing over everything. There is nothing wrong with choice. If you want more people to come to you, create a better product.

 

[Thretosix]

Replying here sucks... My reply to someone didn't post as a response. This is 2018...

 

[Thretosix]

I'm not siding with GPP, I'm just curious how this is any different than Apple/Android products and services? Buying cars with proprietary Apple/Android features. These days everything seems to be about exclusivity. The ultimate form of exclusivity is abandonment from everyone else.

I'm not familiar with such features, but I'm guessing that the same model of car could be purchased with either Apple or Android features? The difference is that Nvidia was incentivising partners to convert their "gaming" branded lineups to be *only* Nvidia. So it'd be like if Apple paid an auto manufacturer to only offer Apple integration integration on one of their popular model lines, and Android integration was relegated to a newly created model line that lacked the consumer recognition of the original line.

I responded but it went into general comments. Essentially what you would think is quite the opposite. Manufacturers like BMW's are exclusive with Car Play where Honda's are Android Auto. I'm not posting a whole list because it is easy enough to look up. This just looks to me like a lot of AMD users got upset and did something but this practice is used all over the place.

 

[theyeti87]

I'm not siding with GPP, I'm just curious how this is any different than Apple/Android products and services? Buying cars with proprietary Apple/Android features. These days everything seems to be about exclusivity. The ultimate form of exclusivity is abandonment from everyone else.

I'm not familiar with such features, but I'm guessing that the same model of car could be purchased with either Apple or Android features? The difference is that Nvidia was incentivising partners to convert their "gaming" branded lineups to be *only* Nvidia. So it'd be like if Apple paid an auto manufacturer to only offer Apple integration integration on one of their popular model lines, and Android integration was relegated to a newly created model line that lacked the consumer recognition of the original line.

I responded but it went into general comments. Essentially what you would think is quite the opposite. Manufacturers like BMW's are exclusive with Car Play where Honda's are Android Auto. I'm not posting a whole list because it is easy enough to look up. This just looks to me like a lot of AMD users got upset and did something but this practice is used all over the place.

Bought a 2018 Civic hatchback 3 days ago, they give you the option of Apple or Android. That option is not an "option" where I selected either/or. The car rolled out of the production line with baked-in support for both of those ecosystems. I digress from the OP...

 

[TJ Hooker]

You'd be guessing wrong. It's one or the other for brands doing it. BMW is using Car Play where Honda is using Android Auto. I'm not going to go through the who list but the exclusivity is sickening. Both companies are guilty in my opinion but I just don't get how it was such a bad thing for NVidia yet when someone else does something we just turn and look the other way. This world will be a lot better when people don't think they have to be exclusive, if we were more inclusive everyone would be working together instead of competing over everything. There is nothing wrong with choice. If you want more people to come to you, create a better product.

Ok, my mistake. But is there any evidence that Apple is paying (or otherwise incentivizing) BMW et al to *only* offer Car Play options? Because could be plausibly be considered anti competitive, much like GPP. If BMW decided on their own that they wanted to focus on Car Play, that's another story. Honda seems to offer the choice of either carplay or android auto, as mentioned above. I checked out a few other manufacturers from both the list of vehicles listed on the car play (acura, buick) and android auto (kia, nissan) websites, they all supported both android auto and car play.