bskchaos :
The hype is gone... I will wait for the partners boards to decide: Green or Red. Let the price war begin...
Price war? Ha! Neither company is doing a price war. Both cards are priced in accordance with their performance. A price war causes both sides to lose. In this case, both AMD and Nvidia are winning, winning, winning.
Some people
fail to realize that the entire Pascal GPU lineup has not been as big of an improvement as Maxwell was when it was released. Maxwell significantly reduced power consumption. Pascal has not (it's remained relatively the same to a tad-wee-bit less). The prices are much higher. I'm not talking about the inflated prices, the MSRP and everything are higher than the Maxwell counterparts. I'm not saying Pascal is bad, they are definitely an improvement in performance, and once prices go down they will also be an improvement in price/performance, but with the inflated prices currently Pascal cards are the same price/performance as similarly-priced Maxwell cards. In some cases even
worse.
At this current moment in time, the GTX 970 is better value than the GTX 1060. We will be seeing at least $300 for these GTX 1060s, most likely more in the $330 arena since the 1070s are even more expensive. I'm going to stick with my original statement: Founder's Editions are stupid. The coolers just stink. My R9 390, a GPU with nearly 3X the power consumption, stays much cooler than the 1060 FE cooler. Nvidia is so good at marketing their cards that so many people fail to see past what they are doing, which is slowly decreasing the
increase in price/performance per generation. Just like how CPUs are becoming limited, I expect GPUs will soon get into that same state. Little improvements.
People talk about new GPUs like Vega and such for 2016 even or early 2017. I say bull. Maxwell was 2014, Pascal was 2016. We can expect Q3 2018 to see the next upgrade after Pascal on the Nvidia side and on the AMD side I'm betting we will have to wait until late 2017 before we see an RX490.
I loved Maxwell. Maxwell was incredible, it really was groundbreaking with how it lowered power consumption so much even without a die shrink and improved performance a ton. But with these new Pascal cards, I'm not seeing that same great jump we saw with Maxwell. Mostly, the poor availability is ruining literally everything. It wasn't this bad with Maxwell. The GTX 1070 and 1080 were supposedly released in May. It is more than half way through July and they still get sold out nearly everywhere immediately and have higher prices. It is indeed getting better, availability is starting to increase, but crap it took so long.
But the GTX 1060 is a good card. I plan to purchase a 1070 when the Gigabyte ITX version comes out, and I am getting nervous that it may be a while and have poor availability. Nonetheless, an improvement is an improvement! Pascal and Polaris are both great.
Edit: I do see cards available currently so it seems this is good!