Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 6GB Review

[littleleo]

All the shortages are frustrating I've run out of the RX 480s, 1060s,1070s and the 1080s. They are all selling as fast as we get them in. I got big pending orders for the 1070s I hope I can fill.

Are you a retailer? I'd be interested to know whether you're getting good numbers of cards and demand is just beyond anything we've seen in the recent past, or are you only getting your hands on small numbers suggesting yield/production issues?

These cards are coming in but still in smaller quantities then I was expecting, we have limits how many we can sell to customers unless it is a special deal we arrange with the manufacturer in advance.

I work for a distributor and sell to retailers, etailors, Consultants.... I just don't sell to the public. I have customers from Europe, across the US to the tip of South America. I love talking to smart professionals all day about computer parts and System/Server builds. They teach me more than the manufactures do that come in and hype their new products to us several times a month. What's funny is I usually know all about the product from researching it on my own online before they come in to train us on it.

 

[17seconds]

Yeah but the 970 = 780Ti just like how the 1070 = 980Ti. ANd Maxwell had way larger efficiency boosts and also those chips could handle higher temperatures unlike Pascal which throttle lower (we see the GTX 1060 throttling at 75C).

Since the Temp Limit variable can be manually adjusted, do you mean that the default Temp Limit is set to 75c? I've looked around a bit and can't seem to find the default setting. I also haven't seen any graphs showing throttling below the normal Temp Limit of 80-82c.

Any GTX 1060 owners care to chime in and tell us what the default setting is? It would be this bit in the middle here (set to 92c in this example for overclocking purposes):

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Hmm. See, I want to buy a GTX 1060 or 1070 for my ITX rig, but I was under the impression the 1060 throttled at lower temps judging from this review. Based on the data presented in this article, it appears to throttle at about 73C. Almost like an AMD CPU.

Whereas the GTX 1070 seems to throttle at 84C.

 

[n0ns3ns3]

Hmm. See, I want to buy a GTX 1060 or 1070 for my ITX rig, but I was under the impression the 1060 throttled at lower temps judging from this review. Based on the data presented in this article, it appears to throttle at about 73C. Almost like an AMD CPU.

Whereas the GTX 1070 seems to throttle at 84C.

Turkey, you are looking at the founders edition. So that behavior might or might not be true for AiB cards.
Also, 1070 is a huge jump in terms of performance. And I've never seen mine going beyond 62C on air (30-32C ambient)

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Hmm. See, I want to buy a GTX 1060 or 1070 for my ITX rig, but I was under the impression the 1060 throttled at lower temps judging from this review. Based on the data presented in this article, it appears to throttle at about 73C. Almost like an AMD CPU.

Whereas the GTX 1070 seems to throttle at 84C.

Turkey, you are looking at the founders edition. So that behavior might or might not be true for AiB cards.
Also, 1070 is a huge jump in terms of performance. And I've never seen mine going beyond 62C on air (30-32C ambient)

It should be consistent, it's still the same GPU. Is not throttling a property of the GPU itself? I don't think it's the VRMs throttling there.

 

[n0ns3ns3]

It's total power/current/temperature limits in BIOS that make card throttle.
With decent cooler, you don't have this behavior.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

It's total power/current/temperature limits in BIOS that make card throttle.
With decent cooler, you don't have this behavior.

Well yeah because a decent cooler won't make the GPU hot enough to throttle. But it still throttles at 74C.

 

[n0ns3ns3]

My overclocked GPU will drop to lower level after 45-46C.
not exactly throttling but might explain few things.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

My overclocked GPU will drop to lower level after 45-46C.
not exactly throttling but might explain few things.

What do you mean lower level?

 

[n0ns3ns3]

2063->2050->2038MHz

 

[turkey3_scratch]

That doesn't make any sense. At 45C.

 

[TJ Hooker]

That doesn't make any sense. At 45C.

I think the point he's trying to make is that 1060 throttling could very well be power-limited, rather than temperature-limited.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

That doesn't make any sense. At 45C.

I think the point he's trying to make is that 1060 throttling could very well be power-limited, rather than temperature-limited.

Well I'd hope to see a review of an aftermarket 1060 to get this clarified.

 

[17seconds]

Okay, I see what you're saying. The clock speed dips around a bit in the Turbo Boost state, but still well above the 1506 MHz standard clock. It could be because it has more fine-grained voltage vs. boost clock variability written into its programming. You can see the multiple voltage points at load vs just a few on the Gaming model. Versus the GTX 970 for comparison as well.

Founder's

MSI Gaming

GTX 970

 

[n0ns3ns3]

That doesn't make any sense. At 45C.

What I'm trying to say is that Pascal (and polaris) cards are very sensitive to temperature.
Probably due to the high leakage with 16/14nm node.
GP 106 is physically smaller than GP 104, so it has less surface for heat transfer.
BUT, with decent cooler from AIB partners, it should be fine since the temperatures will be below 60C.
I live in a harsh environment (33-35C with 75-90% humidity) and yet, GTX 1070 on air was below 60C.
Now on liquid, the card is mostly around 40-42. When i play without air conditioner and the fans are on very low speed, the temperature of the GPU can climb toward 48C.
I have noticed that the card may start at 2080@1.025v and than drop to 2038@1.031v. My guess that the BIOS is aggressively monitors the current/temperature and lowers the clock. With "high" 73C temperature it results in throttling.
On lower temperature it just lowers clock a bit.
I've seen GTX 1060 working stable on 2200MHz with reversible mod on current monitoring. They tricked the card to "think" it;s not hitting power limit.

 

[f-14]

EVGA GTX1060 SC vs RX480 - Mid Range GPU WAR!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no_NBTivfgY
JayzTwoCents
Published on Jul 19, 2016

time for toms to get with the 2000teens everythings gone video now.

 

[n0ns3ns3]

^ while I like to watch Jay, he is anything but an authority in GPUs

 

[King_V]

403 Forbidden whenever I try to go to any page past page 1 of this review??


Hmm, seems to have resolved itself...

 

[JackNaylorPE]

I'm expecting to see some eye popping numbers when the latest Steam survey is released.

It has been.

The AMD Radeon R9 380/380x Series 1st appeared at the end of June 2016, one year after the 380 was released and now the 2 cards have 0.54% of the market, Meanwhile, the slower 960 grabbed 3.72% of the market.

I don't expect the 480 to make an appearance for months, especially that this time around the the 1060 is substantially faster than the 480 and the cards w/ the price advantage (reference and Nitro) have kinda fallen flat .

As for the 960, even tho, it outsold all AMD cards combined over two generations, I don't expect the 1060 to break into the list until fall.

AMD Radeon R9 380 Series = 0.54%
AMD Radeon R9 390 Series = 0.52%
AMD Radeon R7 300 Series = 0.46%
AMD Radeon R9 200 Series = 0.68%
AMD Radeon R7 200 Series = 0.41%

 

[RedJaron]

As for the 960, even tho, it outsold all AMD cards combined over two generations,

Those numbers aren't fully accurate. My R9 280 is listed under Windows as a 7900 series card. Wouldn't surprise me to find a lot of the 200 and 300 cards under their respective 7700, 7800, or 7900 groupings as well. I imagine the new chips ( 285/380, 390 ) are all grouped correctly. But overall, you'll be hard pressed to separate the number of cards purchased when they were still 7000 or when they got rebranded.

 

[littleleo]

I'm expecting to see some eye popping numbers when the latest Steam survey is released.

It has been.

The AMD Radeon R9 380/380x Series 1st appeared at the end of June 2016, one year after the 380 was released and now the 2 cards have 0.54% of the market, Meanwhile, the slower 960 grabbed 3.72% of the market.

I don't expect the 480 to make an appearance for months, especially that this time around the the 1060 is substantially faster than the 480 and the cards w/ the price advantage (reference and Nitro) have kinda fallen flat .

As for the 960, even tho, it outsold all AMD cards combined over two generations, I don't expect the 1060 to break into the list until fall.

AMD Radeon R9 380 Series = 0.54%
AMD Radeon R9 390 Series = 0.52%
AMD Radeon R7 300 Series = 0.46%
AMD Radeon R9 200 Series = 0.68%
AMD Radeon R7 200 Series = 0.41%

Husband's Anonymous, too funny, perhaps a free "Willy" club for husbands, lol!

 

[JackNaylorPE]

]Those numbers aren't fully accurate. My R9 280 is listed under Windows as a 7900 series card. Wouldn't surprise me to find a lot of the 200 and 300 cards under their respective 7700, 7800, or 7900 groupings as well. I imagine the new chips ( 285/380, 390 ) are all grouped correctly. But overall, you'll be hard pressed to separate the number of cards purchased when they were still 7000 or when they got rebranded.

Well there's also this

 

[RedJaron]

Oh, I'm not saying Nvidia hasn't outsold AMD. That's obvious. I'm saying going by Steam stats alone you can't say the 960 outsold all Radeon 200 and 300 series combined.

 

[littleleo]

AMD did 29% market share and Nvidia around 71% for the 1st Quarter of 2016. Good news for AMD since it gained share.

http://wccftech.com/amd-takes-gpu-share-nvidia-q1-2016/

I'm wondering how AMD did in the 2nd quarter. Since the release of the Pascal models will slow down the movement of the Maxwell models until the prices on them drop. And there wasn't much stock on the Pascals to ship.

 

[Sakkura]

Those numbers aren't fully accurate. My R9 280 is listed under Windows as a 7900 series card. Wouldn't surprise me to find a lot of the 200 and 300 cards under their respective 7700, 7800, or 7900 groupings as well. I imagine the new chips ( 285/380, 390 ) are all grouped correctly. But overall, you'll be hard pressed to separate the number of cards purchased when they were still 7000 or when they got rebranded.

Still, the 7900 series is only clocking in at 1.35%, so it's not like the picture gets much better that way.