News Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080: Everything We Know

[Admin]

Nvidia's GeForce RTX 3080 promises a big boost in performance and ray tracing capabilities, surpassing every previous generation GPU by a large margin. Here's everything we know about the upcoming graphics card.

Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080: Everything We Know : Read more

 

[drivinfast247]

Daaang!

 

[jasonf2]

If the metrics they had in the graphs pan out Nvidia is in for a very good year, especially with the performance to dollar proposition against the 1000 series cards and upgrades. I have a 1080ti and even at the lower level cards the performance bump and ray tracing is making for a compelling upgrade argument. The 3090 is bringing the titan class performance back into a stupid high, but maybe if I have a little too much to drink one night after a Christmas bonus range. Now I need a PCI 4 motherboard lol.

 

[JarredWaltonGPU]

If the metrics they had in the graphs pan out Nvidia is in for a very good year, especially with the performance to dollar proposition against the 1000 series cards and upgrades. I have a 1080ti and even at the lower level cards the performance bump and ray tracing is making for a compelling upgrade argument. The 3090 is bringing the titan class performance back into a stupid high, but maybe if I have a little too much to drink one night after a Christmas bonus range. Now I need a PCI 4 motherboard lol.

I need Rocket Lake and Zen 3. Zen 2 ain't gonna cut it with RTX 3090 I suspect.

 

[nofanneeded]

In the short-term, it seems unlikely Nvidia will have to fill that gap.

Just buy it guys , just buy it .. (here we go again)

780 ti , 980 ti , 1080 ti , 2080 ti , no 3080 ti ? I DONT THINK SO.

More over , when the 3080 ti will be released for $999 , 3090 Ti/super will be released for $1499 with 20% more speed than 3090 and 3090 will be canceled

That is the 3080 ti will be 3090 but with 12GB VRAM. and the 3090 Ti will be 20% faster than 3080 ti/3090 with 24 GB VRAM

This is my Prediction

 

[nofanneeded]

Come on Nvidia , RTX 3090 is 36 Tflops , while RTX 3080 is 30 Tflops.

Thats 20% more speed and you are asking 114% more price ???

 

[spongiemaster]

Come on Nvidia , RTX 3090 is 36 Tflops , while RTX 3080 is 30 Tflops.

Thats 20% more speed and you are asking 114% more price ???

140% more memory for only 114% higher price? Nvidia is undercharging. You can make any argument you want look reasonable if you choose only one number to back it up. Last generation's 24GB card was $2500. That's a 40% price drop for a much faster card. That is a legitimately huge increase in price/performance. That's the bottom line statistic for most people.

 

[viktorbkk]

I have a legitimate question that I have not seen addressed for the time being.

On paper the RTX 3080 should be ~3 times faster in rasterisation than the RTX 2080 (30 vs 10 TFLOPS)

Yet, based on the official info we have right now, the performance uplift is morel ike +70% to 110% which does not align with the nominal increase in TFLOPS. Is nVidia calculating Terraflops differently in this generation, or am I missing something ?

 

[nofanneeded]

140% more memory for only 114% higher price? Nvidia is undercharging. You can make any argument you want look reasonable if you choose only one number to back it up. Last generation's 24GB card was $2500. That's a 40% price drop for a much faster card. That is a legitimately huge increase in price/performance. That's the bottom line statistic for most people.

14GB GDDR6 costs ~$150 . your logic is comparing apple to oranges. you cant compare Titans agains RTX . and the Titan Ampere is coming.

 

[DZIrl]

I still do not see any significant price drop on RTX series. 2080 Super is just 30 Eur down and new ones are out in 2 weeks!
Someone buying VGA must be totally crazy to buy anything now!

If 3080 is same price as 2080 at double performance does it means that 20xx series price will drop 50%?

 

[McGaz]

What are people's thoughts on the release timings, e.g the 3080 nvidia card comes out, then how long for the cards from MSI, etc? This new cooler design might be hard to improve on by these other companies, so I wonder if it'll be worth waiting.

Then there's the question of the 3080 ti to bridge the gap to the 3090/Titan. I'm sure it came out not to long after the 1080 for a similar price. It makes timing the purchase difficult!

 

[nofanneeded]

I have a legitimate question that I have not seen addressed for the time being.

On paper the RTX 3080 should be ~3 times faster in rasterisation than the RTX 2080 (30 vs 10 TFLOPS)

Yet, based on the official info we have right now, the performance uplift is morel ike +70% to 110% which does not align with the nominal increase in TFLOPS. Is nVidia calculating Terraflops differently in this generation, or am I missing something ?

TFlops does not translate into real Total game performance benchmarks

If you notice , Nvidia cards beat AMD cards when they have same Tflops or even less .

 

[nofanneeded]

I still do not see any significant price drop on RTX series. 2080 Super is just 30 Eur down and new ones are out in 2 weeks!
Someone buying VGA must be totally crazy to buy anything now!

If 3080 is same price as 2080 at double performance does it means that 20xx series price will drop 50%?

They wont drop , I think Nvidia will recall unsold cards back ...

 

[nofanneeded]

What are people's thoughts on the release timings, e.g the 3080 nvidia card comes out, then how long for the cards from MSI, etc? This new cooler design might be hard to improve on by these other companies, so I wonder if it'll be worth waiting.

Then there's the question of the 3080 ti to bridge the gap to the 3090/Titan. I'm sure it came out not to long after the 1080 for a similar price. It makes timing the purchase difficult!

RTX 3090 is not the Titan . Ampere Titan will come. as for the reference card well I think this time Nvidia did it right , by using heatpipes I doubt that it will differ much from third parties coolers outside AIO cooled cards or maybe some will use the same nvidia design but with 3 fans instead of 2 then it will be better ... but it will be around $50 more I guess.

But in any ways , I dont recommend buying any new hardware at release date , maybe hardware problems will be discovered and nvidia recalls them ? it is better to wait 1-2 months until people buy the card and test it and use it for some while ...

 

[spongiemaster]

14GB GDDR6 costs ~$150 . your logic is comparing apple to oranges. you cant compare Titans agains RTX . and the Titan Ampere is coming.

I'm not sure how you missed the point by that much.

Jensen actually said in the unveiling stream that the 3090 was the new Titan. So don't hold you breadth waiting for a gaming card called Titan. Anything faster than a 3090 in this stack will be a 3090Ti or 3090 Super, or something like that.

 

[spongiemaster]

They wont drop , I think Nvidia will recall unsold cards back ...

Nvidia doesn't do that.

 

[JarredWaltonGPU]

I have a legitimate question that I have not seen addressed for the time being.

On paper the RTX 3080 should be ~3 times faster in rasterisation than the RTX 2080 (30 vs 10 TFLOPS)

Yet, based on the official info we have right now, the performance uplift is morel ike +70% to 110% which does not align with the nominal increase in TFLOPS. Is nVidia calculating Terraflops differently in this generation, or am I missing something ?

I talked about this more with the RTX 3090, but I suspect real-world gaming performance is going to be limited by the CPU and rest of the system -- even at 4K. The games used for testing are also going to impact performance gains, because a lot of games simply don't scale beyond a certain point. So Control for example if you double your GPU performance, you probably only get ~50-75% more fps.

But we also know Nvidia has reworked the underlying architecture, and it's possible that in some ways it gets less benefit from higher TFLOPS. I mean, that would be weird and I don't think that's the case, because it would imply lower efficiency and performance per watt on some level.

Very likely it's just the games and system bottlenecks, though. There will be games where performance is going to scale more with TFLOPS, so maybe RTX 3090 ends up twice as fast as Titan RTX in some cases. And other games won't scale as well and it will only be 30-50% faster.

 

[King_V]

Defintely intriguing. As with the 3070, the performance jump for the price is impressive.

Now, I can't ever see myself buying a $700 card, and I'm not really the target audience, but credit where credit is due here for Nvidia.

 

[nofanneeded]

Nvidia doesn't do that.

Then you know nothing about retailers agreements with Manufacturers ...

 

[nofanneeded]

I'm not sure how you missed the point by that much.

Jensen actually said in the unveiling stream that the 3090 was the new Titan. So don't hold you breadth waiting for a gaming card called Titan. Anything faster than a 3090 in this stack will be a 3090Ti or 3090 Super, or something like that.

I dont think that he killed the Titan brand .. he meant the Titan performance or memory size ... he did not say Titan is not coming.

 

[nofanneeded]

Defintely intriguing. As with the 3070, the performance jump for the price is impressive.

Now, I can't ever see myself buying a $700 card, and I'm not really the target audience, but credit where credit is due here for Nvidia.

$500 not $700 for the 3070

 

[King_V]

$500 not $700 for the 3070

I should have been clearer - I was referring to the 3080, since this thread was for the 3080, and just intended the 3070 mention as an "also"

 

[InvalidError]

Come on Nvidia , RTX 3090 is 36 Tflops , while RTX 3080 is 30 Tflops.

Thats 20% more speed and you are asking 114% more price ???

Just like anything else silicon, there is a point of diminishing return to how large a chip can be before yields make it impossible to push performance per dollar any further. Halo products have practically always had disproportionate price premiums due to the combination of underlying logistics and being more of a status symbols than practical choice for budget-conscious people.

The top 2-3 models/tiers of most CPU and GPU generations have rarely made any sense strictly based on price-to-performance ratio. You have to care more about performance or bragging rights than cost to bother with those.

 

[nofanneeded]

Just like anything else silicon, there is a point of diminishing return to how large a chip can be before yields make it impossible to push performance per dollar any further. Halo products have practically always had disproportionate price premiums due to the combination of underlying logistics and being more of a status symbols than practical choice for budget-conscious people.

The top 2-3 models/tiers of most CPU and GPU generations have rarely made any sense strictly based on price-to-performance ratio. You have to care more about performance or bragging rights than cost to bother with those.

Well then 3080 in SLI is the answer to this not to pay 114% more for 20% more performance .. the worst SLI scenario will give you 50% more ... if not upto 90% more .

no wonder Nvidia did not Allow SLI for 3080 ...

I know Developers are not bothering to optimize their games for SLI , but that is because Nvidia Policies are not encouraging it.

However , Intel is Entering hard using Tiles GPU in the Xe , and I think Intel Hardware has the influence to force game makers to make use of Parallel GPU in all games ..

I think that intel will change things alot.

 

[spongiemaster]

Then you know nothing about retailers agreements with Manufacturers ...

Nvidia doesn't do that. Neither does Intel or AMD. That's now how the computer industry works.