News Nvidia GeForce RTX 40 Super pricing leak - expect reinvigorated $599, $799, and $999 offerings

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This price leak, if true, reveals that not all three RTX 40 Super graphics cards will sport especially attractive price tags. This is particularly true for the RTX 4080 Super, which is apparently going to launch at $999.

Oh yes, $999.99 (likely up to $1099.99-$1199.99 after OEM custom editions as usual) is SO ATTRACTIVE! It's only about twice the price of the 4070 Super!
 
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I just can't personally envision paying these prices for these refreshed cards. Nvidia has tarnished so much of their reputation the past few years. I truly hope Intel and AMD keep competing otherwise the future of GPUs for gamers is looking real grim.
 
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Man, they're really going through with that 'Ti Super'(Titanium Super) naming... Should've gone with Super Ti(Super Titanium), that at least would've had a nicer ring to it when said aloud...

They can do 4 different SKUs per tier now if they really felt like it...
That's it until 2025, folks; if you were thinking of waiting this generation out.


I truly hope Intel and AMD keep competing otherwise the future of GPUs for gamers is looking real grim.
It's going to chug along just fine. It's just the high end that's TARFU.
Folks want to be able to buy halo/flagship products for cheap and still be able to buy necessities and pay bills. It's gotten harder for some to do, or justify doing.
 

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Folks want to be able to buy halo/flagship products for cheap
not really, but paying so much for high end products, is a rip off...

here anything above the 4070 Ti series is 1k+ and its not even worth it performance wise..
the 7900XT is pushing it... 7900xtx is 1300 +
 

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not really, but paying so much for high end products, is a rip off...

here anything above the 4070 Ti series is 1k+ and its not even worth it performance wise..
the 7900XT is pushing it... 7900xtx is 1300 +
Assuming you're talking about US prices, as the article is, you're dead wrong about AMD.

7900 XT starts at $760:
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=547&sort=price

and the 7900 XTX starts under $1000.
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=548&sort=price&page=1
 

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not really, but paying so much for high end products, is a rip off...

here anything above the 4070 Ti series is 1k+ and its not even worth it performance wise..
Worth is subjective and gets argued back and forth all the time, despite some trying to make it absolute.

Enough folks are clearly showing Nvidia that the prices aren't a problem, and that they were possibly not charging enough for some of the earlier gens. The company is profits and shareholder satisfaction above all else.

I didn't expect the pricing of the high end models to continue, but it looks like various economies are doing better than I thought.
50 series will likely look just a screwy.
 

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Worth is subjective and gets argued back and forth all the time, despite some trying to make it absolute.

Enough folks are clearly showing Nvidia that the prices aren't a problem, and that they were possibly not charging enough for some of the earlier gens. The company is profits and shareholder satisfaction above all else.

I didn't expect the pricing of the high end models to continue, but it looks like various economies are doing better than I thought.
50 series will likely look just a screwy.

either way, at some point, even those will finally decide that nvidia is charging too much, and will top buying there cards...
 

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That's top price for gpus that are short on RAM today, and are prone to break, with cracks and burn connectors.
Money is supposedly buy quality, reliability, and long life. The 4070 Super comes with 12Gb, when 12 gb was insufficient months ago, and is not going to be usable next year.
 

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either way, at some point, even those will finally decide that nvidia is charging too much, and will top buying there cards...
Or people will just buy older nvidia cards.

A 2060 Super can be had for around $175, a 2060 12gb is around $230. A 2060M 12gb (built on a mobile 2060 chip) is $155 . The key is just having 8gb or more of ram, and use upscaling technology.

Nvidia isn't building low end cards going forward - they are an AI company now.
 

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Man, they're really going through with that 'Ti Super'(Titanium Super) naming... Should've gone with Super Ti(Super Titanium), that at least would've had a nicer ring to it when said aloud...

They can do 4 different SKUs per tier now if they really felt like it...
That's it until 2025, folks; if you were thinking of waiting this generation out.



It's going to chug along just fine. It's just the high end that's TARFU.
Folks want to be able to buy halo/flagship products for cheap and still be able to buy necessities and pay bills. It's gotten harder for some to do, or justify doing.
It would have made more sense to call it a 4080 Light since it uses AD103 like the 4080 and not AD104 like the rest of the 4070s. But transparent naming schemes have gone out of style.
 

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This is a major issue.
You see, the problem with nVidia's current strategy is not that their cards are not powerful enough for the money, but rather that they're simply too expensive.

What they're trying to do is install the mindset on everyone's mind that a 4070 (or whatever) should cost that kind of money. That's just plain wrong. They should've released them with considerably lower prices. The price cuts are welcome, but there's so much more to do. Sure, they need to avoid cannibalizing their own non-super product stack for now, but prices MUST come down considerably.

They've been chasing performance and tech at all costs, but that comes at the expense of marketshare, affordability, overall number of gamers who can afford this...which then has an impact on who plays what.

Game developer income will surely take a hit, then they'll have to release games with lower system requirements to address a bigger chunk of the market...which will in turn reduce the need for super powerful graphics and maybe THEN we'll return to sanity.

That, of course, unless nVidia stops caring about gamers. Then maybe AMD can do something about it.
There's a ton of money in AI, though.

Still, I'm not paying $800 for a 4070Ti. That's nearly 4090 money.
 
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This is a major issue.
You see, the problem with nVidia's current strategy is not that their cards are not powerful enough for the money, but rather that they're simply too expensive.

What they're trying to do is install the mindset on everyone's mind that a 4070 (or whatever) should cost that kind of money. That's just plain wrong. They should've released them with considerably lower prices. The price cuts are welcome, but there's so much more to do. Sure, they need to avoid cannibalizing their own non-super product stack for now, but prices MUST come down considerably.

They've been chasing performance and tech at all costs, but that comes at the expense of marketshare, affordability, overall number of gamers who can afford this...which then has an impact on who plays what.

Game developer income will surely take a hit, then they'll have to release games with lower system requirements to address a bigger chunk of the market...which will in turn reduce the need for super powerful graphics and maybe THEN we'll return to sanity.

That, of course, unless nVidia stops caring about gamers. Then maybe AMD can do something about it.
There's a ton of money in AI, though.

Still, I'm not paying $800 for a 4070Ti. That's nearly 4090 money.
I wouldn't worry about game developers losing income over Nvidia prices. I have yet to find a game that doesn't run just fine on the Asus Ally with reasonable settings. Farcry 6, Baldurs Gate 3, Total War: Pharaoh will all run on a modern potato with integrated graphics. You don't need a >$500 nVidia card to enjoy games and next year Strix Point and Strix Halo will raise the bar for integrated graphics even higher. Expensive nVidia cards are useful if you've got cash to burn and want to play with ray tracing, VR, and AI but you don't need it to play games.
 
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These prices are unimpressive.

I am hoping the RX 7600XT 16GB comes out at the rumored $329 price tag. At that price it will completely invalidate the 4060/Ti/16
 
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You see, the problem with nVidia's current strategy is not that their cards are not powerful enough for the money, but rather that they're simply too expensive.
Yet enough folks* are proving that they're not. If someone want the product bad enough, or they're locked into the CUDA(proprietary software) garden, they will pay.
Nvidia's math analyzers can see that they weren't charging enough for their products previously. Gone are the days of pricing like the 10 series.
[Some games, for example, are easily, and healthily sustained by individuals pumping large amounts of cash into them.]

What they're trying to do is install the mindset on everyone's mind that a 4070 (or whatever) should cost that kind of money.
I think the word you're looking for is conditioning?

Sure, they need to avoid cannibalizing their own non-super product stack for now, but prices MUST come down considerably.
They can simply let the older SKUs run out, like they did before - nothing new there. With so many of them, they practically BURY the uninitiated away from AMD or Intel alternatives. And there's no real incentive to drop pricing - a lack of competition, proprietary software garden, and enough folks keep buying Nvidia products.

They've been chasing performance and tech at all costs, but that comes at the expense of marketshare, affordability, overall number of gamers who can afford this...which then has an impact on who plays what.
WE(not necessarily you and me) have been chasing. Is it not their job to make progress?

Folks should be buying what they can afford within reason, not - for example - purchasing a 4090 and possibly putting themselves in financial instability because they used to be able to buy the halo product for 700~800 bucks. If the budget limit hasn't increased since yonder, then they should look at what falls within that, and swallow their pride, FOMO, or whatever lead to the cognitive dissonance.

Impact on who plays what? Then turn down settings. It's an inevitability, unless someone buys a new gpu every gen.

Game developer income will surely take a hit, then they'll have to release games with lower system requirements to address a bigger chunk of the market...which will in turn reduce the need for super powerful graphics and maybe THEN we'll return to sanity.
Experienced devs at various studios already get tossed by studio management, or the publisher for cheaper and less experienced labor. Job security is a concern at the more business-oriented establishments.
The mobile games market is bigger than PC and console combined. The requirements and resources are low, and they're easier work for devs to churn out. They can bring in so much money, it's disgusting.
In a sense, folks with/or pursuing super powerful graphics maybe getting shafted as there are not as many titles - in comparison - to push such a gpu to the limit, and some of the ones that do are riddled with bugs and glitches. Then again, some games demand so much of one's time these days, especially the subscription based ones.

That, of course, unless nVidia stops caring about gamers. Then maybe AMD can do something about it.
AMD, or rather, another publicly traded company, would behave similarly if they were in Nvidia's position.
 
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