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Additionally, 10 and 30 were both scalped like crazy during crypto booms. Which is probably why Nvidia thought they could get away with such high prices for 20/40; because they saw how much people were willing to pay for scalped cards. And when they priced the cards so high that sales didn't live up to their expectations, 20/40 both got Super refreshes.

The parallels between the 20 and 40 series make me feel like I've gone back in time 5 years.
Yeah, scalping was a huge issue and basically proved Nvidia could charge more on most parts. I don't recall seeing it happen too much with the 10-series (outside of crypto-related scalping), but the 30-series pre-crypto was scalping 3080 at $1000+ and 3090 at $2250+, more or less.

Crypto has caused a ton of confusion in prices though, and now that it's basically dead (for now?), support for crazy prices has dropped.
 
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Yeah, scalping was a huge issue and basically proved Nvidia could charge more on most parts. I don't recall seeing it happen too much with the 10-series (outside of crypto-related scalping), but the 30-series pre-crypto was scalping 3080 at $1000+ and 3090 at $2250+, more or less.

Crypto has caused a ton of confusion in prices though, and now that it's basically dead (for now?), support for crazy prices has dropped.
Yeah, I was only thinking of crypto-related scalping with the 10-series. I remember getting a 1060 6GB for $250 in early 2017 without a problem - and later that year, they were selling for $500 on eBay.
I didn't even contemplate selling mine, because the only other card I had at the time was a Radeon 9600. :-D
 
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Yeah, scalping was a huge issue and basically proved Nvidia could charge more on most parts. I don't recall seeing it happen too much with the 10-series (outside of crypto-related scalping), but the 30-series pre-crypto was scalping 3080 at $1000+ and 3090 at $2250+, more or less.

Crypto has caused a ton of confusion in prices though, and now that it's basically dead (for now?), support for crazy prices has dropped.


It looks like AI is starting to drive prices up, at least on the 4090 anyway.
 

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ASRock briefly sold the 7900 GRE for $499 about 2w ago (@Newegg). At that price, it simply destroys the 4070 Super. The 4070 Super can only win at Ray Tracing, which destroys image quality so much with a low frame rate that it hardly matters. Sorry, NVidia. Unfortunately the 7900 GRE has now increased back up to $530, so that temporary experiment by ASRock has ended.

AMD is clearly suffering because their 7000-series cards failed to match the ray tracing performance of NVidia 3000-cards, so they are more than 1 generation behind in ray tracing. All the other stuff doesn't matter (FSR 2.1 and 3.0 work just fine for most folks; AMD gets a bad rap for the earlier versions only ...)