-Fran-
Glorious
There are? That's good to know at least.Right now, I can drive down to Micro Center and there are actually RTX 5060 Ti 16GB cards in stock, starting at $479. There are no RTX 4060 Ti 16GB (or 8GB) cards available. Online, 5060 Ti shows up as out of stock everywhere, but it's only the day after launch, while the lowest price on a 4060 Ti 8GB is $533.
Given we've seen 5070 relatively available, at 10~15 percent above the MSRP, I expect the same to happen with 5060 Ti cards. It will take a few weeks. But speaking of Micro Center, my local (ish) store also has 18 RTX 5070 cards in stock, at $549. So given the performance, no, I wouldn't recommend the 5060 Ti 16GB at anything above $450, which is why I expect it to generally fall back toward MSRP. That or the 5070 MSRP cards will need to forever disappear.
Doing a quick check, they're all for "store purchase only" and not available, so not sure how's the in-store situation.
We'll definitely know more soon.
As for its value... I have to disagree on one specific point: it doesn't beat the 4070. Same issue with the 5070 and 5070ti and 5080: you already had that level of performance in the previous gen. New buyers, sure can get it now, but they're getting less performance for a very similar price point a year or two late. Like WTF nVidia.
This card moves the needle very little to not at all, which is depressing and that just doesn't scream "great value" at me.
Regards.