Nvidia hits a hilarious new low in rebranding.

[GreenDutchAlien]

Don't agree with the rest but about the number 565 the op could be right. I still have nightmares from my very unhappy one year marriage with it. It shortened my life with at least a couple of years. Seeing the number 565 directly gave me the shivers . . . Brrrrr.

 

[GreenDutchAlien]

marriage with the 465 obviously.

 

[spentshells]

Im a lil pumped up if the new 448 core 560 comes out.

 

[eyefinity]

Im a lil pumped up if the new 448 core 560 comes out.

Even though it's actually a cut down 570? This is the thing, would you still be pumped about it if it was called a 565, or 570 SE? This card has no more in common with a 560 Ti than say, a 550 Ti does.

It is directly comparible to the poorly-regarded 465 (a cut down 470 that got universal terrible reviews). You only think it's better because Nvidia have branded it a 560 Ti instead of 565.

 

[ukee1593]

If the new GTX 560 Ti retains the GTX 570's core clock speed of 732MHz then it'll probably turn out slower than the current GTX 560 Ti. In order for it to match or beat the GTX 560 Ti (Standard) it'll need a core clock of at least 790MHz which will make the power consumption of the card absolutely CRAZY compared to the standard GTX 560 Ti. Possibly even more than the current GTX 570.

Given that the GTX 560 Ti OEM retains the GTX 570's core clock I'm betting that so will the GTX 560 Ti 448 core will too. This will mean similar performance to the GTX 470, and thus making it slower than the current GTX 560 Ti (Standard).

So my theory is that the GTX 560 Ti 448 Core will turn into a massive SHINY object for all silly builders who don't read benchmarks to buy.

I really don't see why NVidia needs another competitor to the HD6950. The GTX 560 Ti comes close enough as it is. The only other reason is that they have a whole bunch of partially broken GF 110 lying around.

BTW: I'm NOT an AMD fanboy. I currently have a computer running a GTX 560 Ti SITTING RIGHT BESIDE ME!!

 

[spentshells]

448 cuda cores.
This version will be faster than the standard 560 Ti even with a slightly lower clock speed.

I agree 100% The additional core count and additional memory bandwidtch will way more than make up for 100mhz in clock speed

 

[wh3resmycar]

anybody here understands the word "yield"?

that should pretty much sum up why nvidia came up with this.

 

[jyjjy]

I agree 100% The additional core count and additional memory bandwidtch will way more than make up for 100mhz in clock speed

Well, it will basically be an update of the GTX 470 it seems and the GTX 470 is slightly slower than the GTX 560 Ti. So they will probably bump up the clock speed on the new cards at least slightly would be my guess.

 

[spentshells]

Well, it will basically be an update of the GTX 470 it seems and the GTX 470 is slightly slower than the GTX 560 Ti. So they will probably bump up the clock speed on the new cards at least slightly would be my guess.

Being a chopped up 570 the chip should be a lot cooler, I see no reason the speeds of the 560ti (384 cores) can not be replicated on the regular. There should be more thermal headroom since part of the 570 is disabled lowering heat a lil bit.

 

[eyefinity]

Being a chopped up 570 the chip should be a lot cooler, I see no reason the speeds of the 560ti (384 cores) can not be replicated on the regular. There should be more thermal headroom since part of the 570 is disabled lowering heat a lil bit.

Yes but surely these are 570's that didn't quite make the cut for whatever reason? I can't see how they will reach 560 Ti clock speeds if that is the case, and the 570 was already a bad overclocker. It would need a 12% overclock to reach current 560 Ti speeds.

A 448 core 570 at stock speeds will be about 3% faster than a stock 560 Ti.

They could also just be unsold 570's I suppose, which is bad enough but if that was the case why not just lower the price on them instead? It's already good value compared to the 6970 so it would seem unlikely to be selling all that badly.

 

[spentshells]

Eye where do you get that number of 3% ? Im interested.
I'm not looking to argue or anything but I don't think that is accurate.
I'll guess they are doing this to fill in a gap as mentioned 240-280 range.
It sounds like they are filling a gap with unsold chips the 570 lost a lot of ground Im sure to the 560 ti.

 

[jyjjy]

Yes but surely these are 570's that didn't quite make the cut for whatever reason? I can't see how they will reach 560 Ti clock speeds if that is the case, and the 570 was already a bad overclocker

These would be GF110 chips with manufacturing defects that necessitate disabling 2 of the 16 shader blocks. With the extra shaders they would only need to give the GPU a mild boost over the GTX 570s reference clocks to match a current GTX 560 Ti and that shouldn't be a real issue.

 

[4Ryan6]

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