Nvidia Played a Part in SteamOS Development

[somebodyspecial]

"When my games can be played on Linux without the use of Wine I might give it a try"

That's likely never going to happen. Most developers have moved on from their published titles, some might go back and make it linux compatible, but most won't, unless you know how to re-code a game without the source, or even with it, you'll likely always have to use Wine for most windows games, depending on how old your library runs and what it consists of. (Or dual boot at the least.)

This might however give developers a push to move to linux in the future and make their games compatible.

We aren't talking about the devs going back and re-coding the games. We are talking about wanting some kind of API to come out capable of running DirectX based games without requiring a windows OS. I will not use SteamOS unless they manage to do that, because it would lock me out of at least 130 of my 160+ games.

I'm sure they'll work on converting (recoding) the most popular titles (and many already run dx or opengl, like unreal type stuff where you can run under either, even my old wizardry games did this), but just making Half-Life 3 exclusive to steamos will add tons of users for it. Valve doesn't have to make much for a while off getting us over to steamOS, they just have to break even while expanding the base big time.

This running all your windows games isn't needed anyway...Their answer is DUAL BOOT. This is not complicated and gives you all your windows games. The future isn't windows, it's OPEN (as in OpenGL, WebGL, HTML5, Java) where you make a game ONCE and do simple porting for everywhere else. Like porting Unreal3 engine to firefox in 4 days...LOL. I think they used Java/Ajax or something. But it runs great on anything that runs firefox. This type of stuff is the future.

 

[DiaSin]

"When my games can be played on Linux without the use of Wine I might give it a try"

That's likely never going to happen. Most developers have moved on from their published titles, some might go back and make it linux compatible, but most won't, unless you know how to re-code a game without the source, or even with it, you'll likely always have to use Wine for most windows games, depending on how old your library runs and what it consists of. (Or dual boot at the least.)

This might however give developers a push to move to linux in the future and make their games compatible.

We aren't talking about the devs going back and re-coding the games. We are talking about wanting some kind of API to come out capable of running DirectX based games without requiring a windows OS. I will not use SteamOS unless they manage to do that, because it would lock me out of at least 130 of my 160+ games.

I'm sure they'll work on converting (recoding) the most popular titles (and many already run dx or opengl, like unreal type stuff where you can run under either, even my old wizardry games did this), but just making Half-Life 3 exclusive to steamos will add tons of users for it. Valve doesn't have to make much for a while off getting us over to steamOS, they just have to break even while expanding the base big time.

This running all your windows games isn't needed anyway...Their answer is DUAL BOOT. This is not complicated and gives you all your windows games. The future isn't windows, it's OPEN (as in OpenGL, WebGL, HTML5, Java) where you make a game ONCE and do simple porting for everywhere else. Like porting Unreal3 engine to firefox in 4 days...LOL. I think they used Java/Ajax or something. But it runs great on anything that runs firefox. This type of stuff is the future.

I agree, openness is the future, but for me, I do not see a point in running SteamOS anytime soon, when there are not that many games being released that are capable of running on it. When the number of new releases capable of running on it is the majority, and not the minority I will think about it. Like I said before.. we need some kind of new API that is capable of running DirectX 11 games.

 

[mynith]

I have a feeling that you might need to disable secure boot in order to use SteamOS. Unless it uses GRUB. Then you're probably fine.

 

[smeezekitty]

I have a feeling that you might need to disable secure boot in order to use SteamOS. Unless it uses GRUB. Then you're probably fine.

Secureboot is a defective monopolizing tactic by M$ and should be disabled anyway.

It messes up quite a few things while trying to fix a problem that is relatively rare.

 

[grimtriad]

NVidia is one of those companies where seeing their name makes me less likely to buy a product. I don't care if they're industry leaders, or have a monopoly, they have some of the crappiest policies, shadiest practices, and the worst respect for their consumers I've ever seen. Look up the CEO's comments about CUDA not working correctly on their 8800 series cards and you might understand why that was the last NVidia card I've ever owned. Not to mention that their drivers are almost entirely responsible for the vast majority of issues with Windows Vista.

Gabe Newell is quickly hitting NVidia's level of snobbery as well with complaints about Windows 8 RT (He just says Windows 8 though) for doing the exact same thing his company in now doing (a closed wall garden). And while I was fine with his complaints of closed wall environments, his Win 8 bashing (go find his quotes, a lot of them contain serious misinformation) is still taken as scripture and just shows a level of disrespect for the people in his industry I find hard to swallow.

I vote with my wallet though, and neither company has seen any significant money from me in years.

_WAter_

 

[smeezekitty]

NVidia is one of those companies where seeing their name makes me less likely to buy a product. I don't care if they're industry leaders, or have a monopoly, they have some of the crappiest policies, shadiest practices, and the worst respect for their consumers I've ever seen. Look up the CEO's comments about CUDA not working correctly on their 8800 series cards and you might understand why that was the last NVidia card I've ever owned. Not to mention that their drivers are almost entirely responsible for the vast majority of issues with Windows Vista.

Agreed. Any the hybrid physx lockup which is undoubtedly anti-consumer and anti-competitive is one of the main reasons I do not buy NVidia. There business practices are immoral at best.