NVIDIA possibly abandoning mid and high end market

[randomizer]

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2009/10/06/nvidia-kills-gtx285-gtx275-gtx260-abandons-mid-and-high-end-market/

According to Charlie, The GTX260, 275 and 285 are all EOL within weeks if not already. Take with a grain of salt, obviously. Also, expect NVIDIA PR to deny the whole thing, and for said PR response to show up on Fuddo.

IMO Charlie is milking the "success" of his previous article and using the opportunity to send NVIDIA's public image through the floor.

EDIT: Nice contradictory article right before it too: http://www.semiaccurate.com/2009/10/06/nvidia-will-crater-gtx260-and-gtx275-prices-soon/ :lol:

I love Charlie, he certainly knows how to take the "professional" out of the journalist profession.

 

[jennyh]

If you look at how much money each of these companies make, its not Intel or Nvidia who's about to fail.

You should look a lot more closely at Nvidia.

 

[randomizer]

NVIDIA BK Q3 2010

 

[jennyh]

Nvidia really are in a position to go belly up in under a year. All it would take is fermi being a load of crap.

I just dont see a market for overpriced, underperforming super-computer parts that need to be learned from scratch and your employees put on CUDA courses etc.

Talk about putting your eggs into one basket...this is a huge risk with the whole company at stake. AMD are just too big and have too much history to go down, nvidia dont.

 

[witcherx]

Here's a translation of TGGA's translation of witcherx's translation:

Ferme Le Bouche, witcherx

And also for TGGA..

As i rightly put Fermi = Close.
Nvidia is going to shut out from the main gpu market. Thats why they get these stupid brand names. You will know soon when all these guys who had bought these nvidia card soon realise that their cards are no longer supported.

An if you want you can wait for 3-4 months and buy a Fermi Super Duper Card and build a super computer for yourself by selling your lifes worth.




FERMI = CLOSE

 

[Mousemonkey]

And also for TGGA..

As i [strike]rightly[/strike] wrongly put Fermi = Close.
Nvidia is going to shut out from the main gpu market. Thats why they get these stupid brand names. You will know soon when all these guys who had bought these nvidia card soon realise that their cards are no longer supported.

An if you want you can wait for 3-4 months and buy a Fermi Super Duper Card and build a super computer for yourself by selling your lifes worth.




FERMI (does not)= CLOSE

Fixed it for ya!

 

[witcherx]

Fixed it for ya!

FERMI = CLOSE
Too long they have brought out hi end cards at the super high price.
like 8800 ultras/Dogs for $600 up (lol price).

Now they will come up with FERMI with a $1000 + pricetag

FERMI = CLOSE our option for buying a decent Nvidia price/product which will eventually hurt their business and they will stop further destktop GPUS. And all the nvidia gpus of today will soon be EOL.

 

[randomizer]

We've been told by John for ages that Fermi is close, you don't have to remind us.

 

[randomizer]

G200b is certainly EOL, NVIDIA confirmed it. http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3659

 

[rangers]

^^that should be MIA

 

[mactronix]

fer·mi (fûrm, fr-) KEY

NOUN:
pl. fer·mis
A unit of length equal to one femtometer (10-15 meter).

Mactronix

 

[mactronix]

Also

close
noun fin f.
transitive verb
fermer (door, book);
fermer (border, port);
barrer (road);
interdire l'accès à (area);
mettre fin à (meeting);
fermer (account);
to ~ the gap réduire l'écart;
conclure (deal).
intransitive verb
(airport, polls, shop) fermer;
(door, container, eyes, mouth) se fermer;
(cease to operate) fermer définitivement;
(meeting, play) prendre fin;
to ~ with se terminer par (song);
(currency, index) clôturer (at à);
(gap) se réduire.
closed past participle adjective fermé/-e;
behind ~d doors à huis clos.
close down:
~ down fermer définitivement;
~ [sth] down fermer [qch] définitivement.
close up:
~ up
(flower, wound) se refermer;
(group) se serrer;
(shopkeeper) fermer;
~ [sth] up
fermer (shop);
boucher (hole). You see most definatly not fermi

 

[amdfangirl]

To think I used to have a 9600GT...

To think I'm upgrading to a HD 2400 pro...

 

[kneedragon]

You know, this is an extremely interesting thread to read.

The people who run these companies are not stupid. For nVidia to adopt a strategy where they use income from gaming products to develop a future gaming product that also supports HPC, medical imaging etc, is a smart thing to do. There are many applications where it can work well and some where it's a stroke of genius.

Imho, if they can get to market by q2 2010, @ < US$ 500, with performance at least as good as 5870, they'll survive. If they do significantly better than that in any one or more areas, they'll thrive. On this I do agree - they are betting the farm on it.

On the subject of sticking to core business, don't you think Intel gains cred from doing Xeons and Itaniums and stuff? And don't you think Mum and Dads Pentium didn't pay for the dev of that stuff? And would we have 975EE chips without the demands from the data centre to double up cores, and make those cores more efficient? My point (badly expressed perhaps) is that there is cross-pollination and synergy between the desktop - home pc - gamer market, and the professional computing world. Having a foot in both camps helps you in both.

Mike

 

[amdfangirl]

Funny as hell though, these forums are hilarious. its like tech for teenage girls 😛

Oh thanks for stating the obvious.

 

[Activ8Computers]

Hi all, new forum member here but just thought i'd chip in with a thought or two.

In my point of view Nvidia are drawing a line in the sand now in the graphics market. They are basically saying we have a GPU now that is a jack of all trades, whether it will master them all is another thing. It may be a monster at games but in CGPU apps not so good. It may go the other way round. Personally in games I think it will be about level with ATI's new series, maybe a little worse, depends on how well the tessellator is integrated. There is no concrete proof of a software or hardware tessellator. If it's software then Nvidia have no choice but to start playing the compromise game. Basically they are compromising silicon real estate in the hope it has the raw horesepower. To me thats a dangerous game to play and seems like Nvidia have a sort of DX10.2 solution and not a true DX11 solution. Do developers go back to using different codepaths? Do we get the scenario of a game playing well on a 5850 but the Nvidia card needing to be more powerful to be able to handle it in software? Like I said a dangerous game awaits and it's one I don't like the sound of.

 

[noob2222]

Here is another interesting fact, the president Huang Jen Hsun has dumped million+ stock ownership. He is obvously NOT expecting a very soon recovery and most likely expects a huge drop in stock prices (wich means more losses coming.)

Right now Nvidia is pissing off thier OEM partners as well as thier fan base with each delay. TSMC failures is costing Nvidia time and money and they do not have the luxury of losing any more. They can't sell thier 55nm parts because they cannot make a profit against the new ATI cards and thier 40nm parts are failing badly.

AMD has already announced they expect their 6xxx series to start showing test results in Q4 2010 and will be a redesigned gpu. The closer Nvidia releases Fermi to this, the shorter Nvidia's crown will be. I fully expect Fermi to be faster, but its all a matter of when will it be done.

P.S. Fermi was named for this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrico_Fermi

 

[nforce4max]

Interesting insider trading isn't that illegal oops perhaps not when Madoff got away with 60billion in stolen money while the fed wastes $13trillion in secret bailouts and purchases. All together $26.4 trillion has been looted from with in America and sent off shore.