Nvidia Quadro naming scheme

[NonTechSavvySheep]

For GeForce, we distinguish GT and GTX

First digit represents generation second and third digit represents the model. 10 , 20 ,30 , 40 are non gaming GPUs and 50, 60 ,70 ,80 are gaming GPU also Ti, Ti boost and non Ti.

How about Quadro naming scheme?

How to tell between high end Quadro to Low end?

 

[Lutfij]

To note, the cards you've mentioned as 10, 20, 30, 40 can be used for gaming but the detail and the sort of games you'll be able to play will vary widely.

This link should help. The alphabet prior to the 4 digit series number denotes the architecture/platform of the GPU. K being Kepler, M for Maxwell and P for Pascal. The link is comprehensive though some models may be missing. To add, the higher the number, e.g P6000, the higher the pedigree and it's ability to accomplish tasks and it's subsequent pricing.

 

[NonTechSavvySheep]

To note, the cards you've mentioned as 10, 20, 30, 40 can be used for gaming but the detail and the sort of games you'll be able to play will vary widely.

This link should help. The alphabet prior to the 4 digit series number denotes the architecture/platform of the GPU. K being Kepler, M for Maxwell and P for Pascal. The link is comprehensive though some models may be missing. To add, the higher the number, e.g P6000, the higher the pedigree and it's ability to accomplish tasks and it's subsequent pricing.

Then which one is low end and which one is high end? which Quadro most people use on the budget. in GeForce people use GTX 1050 for budget build because it is in the middle.

how about Quadro
It seems that M6000 is considered as high end Quadro. How about low end and mid range?
how about the lower limit for Quadro? it is difficult to find info about Quadro and most people just go GeForce on and on
is K1200 the lower limit (meaning that we can't go lower than that to have acceptable performance)?

Also what about NVS? K is Keppler M Maxwell and P Pascal. so what about NVS? I found that one in the link you provided.

 

[Lutfij]

M is for the Maxwell architecture. The number following it is the degree of it's rank. P1000 being the entry level workstation card when looking at a Quadro that is built around the Pascal architecture. K denotes the Kepler architecture. The NVS range of GPU's are meant for commercial spaces where you need large displays, namely seen on shopping floors or presentation spaces.

Please keep in mind that Workstation cards don't exactly become cheaper after a few revisions are released. They often cost a lot even when purchased second hand.

To note, it looks like you're trying to narrow down a card for your system. If so, we can't just say XYZ randomly, we're going to need to know what sort of tasks you're going to perform and what your system's specs are.

 

[Wizard61]

For GeForce, we distinguish GT and GTX

First digit represents generation second and third digit represents the model. 10 , 20 ,30 , 40 are non gaming GPUs and 50, 60 ,70 ,80 are gaming GPU also Ti, Ti boost and non Ti.

How about Quadro naming scheme?

How to tell between high end Quadro to Low end?

The current generation of Quadro cards all start with a P with the top dog being the P6000 and go down to the P400.

The previous generation The M series were the high end cards with the K series being the mid range and they were numbered high to low according to performance.

 

[NonTechSavvySheep]

Since this GPU is not for me. This is for my sibling and he said that he wants to use autoCAD software revit LT (later he might switch to revit) and does photosop as well. He didn't specify which features he is going to use a lot. But I only know he works as architect. So it might involves 3D? I don't know sure. Please enlighten me.

Currently, he is stuck on a laptop with GTX 1050 4 GB because he can't find a laptop with Quadro.I hope that GTX 1050 4gb will do the job.

 

[Lutfij]

If you're looking at AutoCAD and professional apps like SolidWorks and Maya then a workstation grade card is the natural route to go. If you're looking at Photoshop then you'd be best served working off a the gaming card.

I am an architect by education and I've learn't that you actually pay a lot to get a hold of a system with workstation pedigree hardware on it like ECC ram and a GPU like a Quadro. In essence you can build a system with off the shelf parts and call it a workstation but the degree/scale(and subsequently the scale of his projects) with which you're earning will make you want to consider getting a workstation grade GPU as a worth while investment.

For example, if all your brother does is render images using Vray on Sketchup, he can accomplish his tasks on pretty much any system built now and dating back 5 years. The real question is how much time does he want to spend on waiting for a task to finish? Workstation grade GPU's come into this picture by accomplishing tasks faster than that a regular gaming grade GPU will(if comparing a similar costing cards performance).

If your brother likes to game when he's not working then you'll be saddened to find out that workstation GPU's make for a horrible gaming card.

 

[NonTechSavvySheep]

If you're looking at AutoCAD and professional apps like SolidWorks and Maya then a workstation grade card is the natural route to go. If you're looking at Photoshop then you'd be best served working off a the gaming card.

I am an architect by education and I've learn't that you actually pay a lot to get a hold of a system with workstation pedigree hardware on it like ECC ram and a GPU like a Quadro. In essence you can build a system with off the shelf parts and call it a workstation but the degree/scale(and subsequently the scale of his projects) with which you're earning will make you want to consider getting a workstation grade GPU as a worth while investment.

For example, if all your brother does is render images using Vray on Sketchup, he can accomplish his tasks on pretty much any system built now and dating back 5 years. The real question is how much time does he want to spend on waiting for a task to finish? Workstation grade GPU's come into this picture by accomplishing tasks faster than that a regular gaming grade GPU will(if comparing a similar costing cards performance).

If your brother likes to game when he's not working then you'll be saddened to find out that workstation GPU's make for a horrible gaming card.

My brother does not game and it is literally his first time for work. He has limited budget and he needs a laptop. I have tried my best to find thr best laptop for the work. But the one with quadro is way overwork. He has to earn money first before he can have a better build. And he ends up with GTX 1050 (not GTX 1050Ti). And he already cut cost by buying floor model. You see how tough life is.
I hope that GTX 1050 does his job fine, but I really need to find an alternative or fail safe just in case if things go wrong.

I don't know if those people were exaggerated but they said that using GeForce for workstation like architecture will be fatal because of their inaccuracy (like building collapse etc) I just don't want him to be in trouble with his employer just because of me. He basically has no knowledge of computer (he doesn't even know what hard drive is although he uses external hard drive every day)

 

[Lutfij]

^ I doubt your brother in the first line of duty will have to perform complex structural analysis and submit thesis grade findings with the hardest of data simulations...now, is he? 😛

If he's working under an employer then the firm will already have machines catering to the workload aka having workstation machines. I understand both your and your brother's disposition and have undergone the same thing albeit while I was a student so by the time I graduated, I was well versed with what hardware to get and how much it'll set me back.

You've hit the nail on the head with the cost of workstation grade parts for an architect who just joined a firm after graduation. Life is tough and finding good work is even tougher. At the end of the day the money earned is allocated towards settling in to your surroundings. Well, I can without a doubt assure you that your brother will be in good hands with what you've given him.

If he can't accomplish what he needs to do off of it, it means:
a| he's using the wrong software(using Microsoft Paint to sketch, lol)
b| his employer/the firm has no idea what they're doing
or
c| we've been doing things backwards
😛

Just an FYI, as an architect you simply come up with design. Sure you need to think about how to structurally solve it but that's where consultation with structural engineers come in. Get my drift?

 

[NonTechSavvySheep]

^ I doubt your brother in the first line of duty will have to perform complex structural analysis and submit thesis grade findings with the hardest of data simulations...now, is he? 😛

If he's working under an employer then the firm will already have machines catering to the workload aka having workstation machines. I understand both your and your brother's disposition and have undergone the same thing albeit while I was a student so by the time I graduated, I was well versed with what hardware to get and how much it'll set me back.

You've hit the nail on the head with the cost of workstation grade parts for an architect who just joined a firm after graduation. Life is tough and finding good work is even tougher. At the end of the day the money earned is allocated towards settling in to your surroundings. Well, I can without a doubt assure you that your brother will be in good hands with what you've given him.

If he can't accomplish what he needs to do off of it, it means:
a| he's using the wrong software(not AutoCAD)
b| his employer has/his firm have no idea what they're doing
or
c| we've been doing things backwards
😛

When my brother was in college, the University already provided the desktop. However things are not the same in his workplace. Surprisingly, they don't provide the set up. And the employer told him to BYOD. I mean it is a bit unreasonable if you have to spend $3000 plus upfront when you basically doesn't have any income from that. Maybe Quadro is right for more advanced and more experienced user. I don't know why they don't just provide the system.

He never play AAA games, if he plays something that would be like Facebook games, or flash games and indie games. I don't think he is into something like Crysis 3 or any of those games.
Thanks anyway for the help.

 

[Lutfij]

Don't mention it bud, just trying to help out!

Yeah it is sad to learn that this is how things are transpiring on your brothers end. If you want to build your brother a desktop, you can look into a Quadro P2000 or a Radeon Pro WX 5100. Do keep in mind that you're going to need ram, motherboard, processor, SSD, HDD, PSU and a case to build as well 😉

Might I ask where you're located?

 

[NonTechSavvySheep]

Don't mention it bud, just trying to help out!

Yeah it is sad to learn that this is how things are transpiring on your brothers end. If you want to build your brother a desktop, you can look into a Quadro P2000 or a Radeon Pro WX 5100. Do keep in mind that you're going to need ram, motherboard, processor, SSD, HDD, PSU and a case to build as well 😉

Might I ask where you're located?

My brother is in Australia and I'm in Indonesia, price inflated that much in Indonesia. What is considered inexpensive in PCPartpicker, amazon or any of that doesn't apply here.

Last time he said that he has $2000 AUD. I tried to convince him to use desktop for that kind of work. But he can't and he said that he needed a laptop because he will do most of the things on the go. And he can't afford both desktop and laptop and he has to choose one, he chose the latter. While I'm asking this question just in case he needs a desktop build and I will have things set up for him.

 

[Lutfij]

Yeah, I hear ya! By the time he saves up for a new(desktop) build it'll be a good year and in that time frame Intel and AMD will come out with more wallet appealing products.

 

[NonTechSavvySheep]

Yeah, I hear ya! By the time he saves up for a new(desktop) build it'll be a good year and in that time frame Intel and AMD will come out with more wallet appealing products.

I'm waiting for threadripper and I hope that he has enough budget he needs when it release. Things like autoCAD, solid works and so on benefit from multi core and multithread. So people who keeps saying that Intel has better single thread performance doesn't apply here. Yes it is nice to have fast single performance and all, however it is not a top priority. We will choose intel if the price is not ridiculously expensive. I would just shy away from Kaby Lake X. I feel cheated when I heard what it has to offer.

I know that i7 6900K has faster single thread performance than Ryzen R7 1700. But it costs multiple times more than ryzen and it is not multiple times faster in the single thread performance which doesn't justify the expenses for someone on budget and it is not a gaming machine anyway.

If only intel could price similarly to what threadripper has to offer and has better BOTH single thread and multithread performance, I will choose Intel hands down. Otherwise I wouldn't bother.

 

[Lutfij]

I'm in touch with some reviewers and as of late Intel isn't make the logical decisions it used to make. X299 is a sign of that and it's probable that Intel will follow the same trend they did back when AMD brought out the first dual core processor.

In retrospect you could build your brother a AMD R7 system with one of the two aforementioned workstation GPU's but please keep in mind that core count isn't all there is to the picture. You're going to need a lot of ram when it comes to renders. I've built a system for my student and in a mitx platform I managed to get him 32GB of DDR4 ram.

If your brother is looking at starting his own firm then he should be prepared to drop in at least 64GB's of ram but anything more will never hurt his workloads. Higher frequency'd ram kits will be a plus.

If you'd like I can pass on the specs to the build if you're interested.

 

[NonTechSavvySheep]

I'm in touch with some reviewers and as of late Intel isn't make the logical decisions it used to make. X299 is a sign of that and it's probable that Intel will follow the same trend they did back when AMD brought out the first dual core processor.

In retrospect you could build your brother a AMD R7 system with one of the two aforementioned workstation GPU's but please keep in mind that core count isn't all there is to the picture. You're going to need a lot of ram when it comes to renders. I've built a system for my student and in a mitx platform I managed to get him 32GB of DDR4 ram.

If your brother is looking at starting his own firm then he should be prepared to drop in at least 64GB's of ram but anything more will never hurt his workloads. Higher frequency'd ram kits will be a plus.

If you'd like I can pass on the specs to the build if you're interested.

Yes it will be very helpful if you can show the list of your build

My brother laptops currently has i7 7700 HQ 16 GB RAM (if he needs more he can make it to 32 GB)128 GB SSD + 2 TB HDD. 17.3" as he said that anything below 15 6" is painful to have serious work down which I understand.

I think it is still a long way for ny brother to make his own firm.

Intel Skylake X is a little bit make sense even if it has anomaly releasing i9. Intel would have never done that. The Kaby Lake X is actually Kaby Lake mainstream with different socket, slightly (100 mhz) clockspeed, integrated graphics card disabled (it's there but it is disabled) higher TDP and hefty hefty price tag for both the motherboard and the processor itself

The worst part is that you pay more for dual channel ram instead of quad channel. 16 pcie lane and use that cheap TIM instead of soldering. I just can't get it out in my head. And why would Intel release i5 in the X motherboard. It doesn't make any sense at all. It is more like a desperate attempt for the rude Awakening.

 

[Lutfij]

Here goes:
i7-6700K
EVGA Z170 Stinger + Intel 7260NGW
G.Skill F4-3200C16D-32GTZSW
Noctua NH-U9S
Crucial MX300 275GB SSD
Toshiba 2TB 7200rpm HDD
EVGA GTX1060 Gaming FTW+ 6GB
EVGA Hadron Air
^ Just shy of 1400USD at the time of purchase. Now that price tag is impossible to achieve for the above build.

By the mentioning of a firm, I was trying to give you an estimate. If he does manage to open one in 2020, he's going to need much more than 64GB.

 

[NonTechSavvySheep]

Here goes:
i7-6700K
EVGA Z170 Stinger + Intel 7260NGW
G.Skill F4-3200C16D-32GTZSW
Noctua NH-U9S
Crucial MX300 275GB SSD
Toshiba 2TB 7200rpm HDD
EVGA GTX1060 Gaming FTW+ 6GB
EVGA Hadron Air
^ Just shy of 1400USD at the time of purchase. Now that price tag is impossible to achieve for the above build.

By the mentioning of a firm, I was trying to give you an estimate. If he does manage to open one in 2020, he's going to need much more than 64GB.

Well, sounds manageable to me. RAM requirement is getting higher. I don't play any games or anything intensive. Just download videos, convert videos ( no editing) and open several tabs (10 tabs) on my budget laptop (i3 5005u 8 gb RAM with igpu intel HD 5500) and I use 5 GB - 6 GB RAM. I don't have many apps in the background. It sounds logical if you say that he will need at least 64 GB for this kind of work

 

[Lutfij]

Had I been given 2500USD by my student or a little more for the build, I'd have given him a workstation system albeit in an matx form factor while also strictly confining him to only professional duties. Apparently my student also likes to play racing genre games which is why he said,

I'm happy if you can recommend a gaming card for now. I'll look at building a true workstation system when I'm financially sound.

FYI, I'm currently on
A10-6800K
ASRock A85x-itx
2x8GB Klevv DDR3-2400MHz kit
Be Quiet! Shadow Rock LP
Crucial M4 128GB SSD
2x1TB HDD's
InWin BP659
on Dell U2311H + HP LA2306x

^ I've rendered on this system but due to the architecture(of the platform) it took me an hour to render an image off Vray which took my student about 10 minutes for him. So the question of how long he can wait for his tasks comes to be. For the sake of a pun, you could even run your work off a Pentium G4560. True the execution times would be horrendous...though that won't be a problem if your clients are all waiting for their designs to finish rendering 😛...right?

Obviously you're going to need to understand a balance.
Go for broke but end up with the fastest machine churning out work or go for mid spec's and churn out a reasonable amount of steady work.