NVidia Readies Dual Chip, Single Chip 9800GX2, 9800GTX and 9800GT

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the Tom's Hardware community: where nearly two million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.


But that is so boring!

Besides, Tom wont have a review until a few weeks after the offical release. :ange:
 



I can not for the life of me get that thing to look like its spinning counter-clockwise.
 
That's because you are thinking like an american.

In Australia their clocks move backwards just like their toilets flush.
Australian Counter Clockwise is American ClockWise.
 

LOL - me too. Try using your peripheral vision and back away, works for me. That seems to have some double meaning.
 


Yup I would think based on G92 die shrunk GT's and GT's that 9800GTX(G92) = 30% faster than 8800GTX

But all in all its just die shrunk same old crap and NO new next gen hardware.

I'm definitely not getting any new video cards until next generation silicon with new architecture and features slams down. If ATI hadn't released such weak early offerings this next round would have been a next gen product and not recycled crap. :pfff:
 



I sure hope you dont believe that....


And I did figure out how to get it to spin the other way, in fact, I can get her upper body to spin the opposite direction of the lower body.

Fun!

Edit: In order for you to see it spinning one direction or the other, what changes is how you perceive the leg that is sticking out.

You see the leg come into the fore-ground, then spin into the back ground....if you reverse that thinking, it spins the other way! Then you can do the same with the arms, and if you tweak your brain enough, you can get the body to twist. :)
 


Is the incerease in your electric bill going to be worth it lol. Not to mention the that maybe even a 1KW PSU may not handle that. I heard a system with 3 GTX's uses about 700-800Watts total with everything else included, I think it was a intel quad cpu but still, the power needed would be insane.
 
Thats quite good badgtx1969 much needed respite as my head was starting to spin trying to work out just where(which section, price/performance) Nvidia are trying to aim this at.
I know that 2 GPU'S = Twice the heat in theory but it seems to me that everybody is ignoring the die shrink. They seem to be holding there own with ATI on heat/power and thats before they shrink so i dont think they will have to throttle back as much as some people think might be the case,just my thinking though. So assuming im off the mark here does this mean that they will have a crazy amount of headroom for overclocking and if so are we heading back to the 1000 watt psu being needed, or and this is quite an interesting thought i just had are these being made from chips that are not up to spec for the next gen of cards so ther will be little headroom or has this card always been planned ?
To be honest im not that sure how a dual GPU card works as the arcitecture goes does anyone know of a good guide ?
Mactronix
 
Now wait just a damn minute!! She is spinning counter-clockwise.

Notice that the shadow of her leg that is sticking out comes into the foreground only once in each rotation.
 
I really wouldn't put my hopes up for the multi GPU scene for another 1.5 years... the drivers are crap and performance is different for every game. IF SLi is anything like CF, we have a long way to go.
 
rallyimprezive - didn't mean to get you staring at your computer screen for 1+ hrs!
On topic - To get rid of of the driver issues and scaling problems on multi GPUs, there needs to be some better hardware development. I think ATi is moving in the right direction with the dual GPUs on one PCB (R680). However, there needs to be a better interconnect than the PLX PCIe switch.
 
she's spinning both ways. I saw clockwise first, but if you focus on her lower foot, you can switch it really easy.

i think our lovely gpu race that's been going on for a while is really dragging down.
ATI's just not what it used to be. they have to get the next series out. nvidia has no reason to move foreword.

and i'm sick of recycled crap, too.

this is disappointing.
 


...and that is why you are a left-brained user. 😉

Right brained ppl see the "whole picture", they see the picture as one object. Left brainers actually break it up into smaller chunks (subconsciously) and see it as a sum of those parts, it is not a single object.

The "default" spin you see when you first pull the picture up is what your brain orientation is... and that shadow plays a role in it. By dissecting the shadow itself (left-brain) you are not taking the perceived angle in 3-D space of the girl to the "floor" in to account etc... (or you are even dissecting those points further into smaller parts and removing much perspective) There is a host of ways to "see" this if you dissect each part, that is why it is a decent metric on how you think. Right-brainers just take the whole thing in and say "cool"... and probably start all kinds of thoughts on the girl and why she is spinning in mid-air. 😉

That is not saying one is better, just it points at different thinking processes.

 
Ive got everyone in the office arguing about the TRUE direction of the spin, using the shadow as a reference.

I wonder, if the 9800GX2 is real, would it have the same limitations as two single GPUs running SLI?

If that makes sense....
 



Very interesting, that certainly makes sense.

To be completely honest though, the very first thing I noticed was that you can see her nipples.
 
I hope this is someone’s idea of a bad joke because I’m not laughing. My X1900 XT is on point of oblivion and I have been holding out for the next generation of video cards to hit the market for several months now. The only straws I can hold onto is the fact nothing official has been mentioned about the hardware, but I’m not going to hold my breath.
 
Me too. Initial look I saw clockwise. After a few second study it switched to counter-clockwise suddenly and I couldn't go back! Then looking down at the foot, I've learned to switch the direction by my will. :pt1cable:
 
Who the hell said 30% boost? Its boost will be the same boost that SLI gives to any 2 cards. Because it IS just 2 cards together as one.

I'm expecting it to be a big success, this way makes the power consumption and heat output much much lower then that of 2 individual cards, plus needs only one PCI-E slot.


The old quad sli rubbish performance will be gone since with DX10 they can raise the pre-render limit from 3 to 4 thus all 4 cards can be utilized. Still only good at higher res though and will depend on game just like SLI and tri-sli.

Its basically 2 cards together though, 2 PCB's. Just like 7950GX2, but with lots of things removed.

GX2 was a beast anyway it rocked, low PC low heat output over-clocked like mad etc. I'm expecting this to be using 8800GTS 512mb G92 chips but down-clocked probably to 500 - 600mhz core, just to make heat and power a little less problem.


Just assumptions, but I have a strong opinion that this will be a very good product. Itll beat ultra as bad as 2x 8800GT SLI beat an ultra.
 
IMHO, I dont think its fair to compare SLI to a dual GPU single slot solution. Perhaps I should not have asked the question.

It just seems that there are to many differences. Two slots vs one slot. The bridge method between GPUs may be different. The way the driver utilizes the GPU may be different.
And lots of other technical shenanigans that I dont know anything about.
 


yup, but it's that initial look that tells you whether you are a rightie or leftie.


and @rallyimprezive: ya, lol... right or left, there are still nipples there. 😀
 


nope, as for Nv it IS "just" sli whether 2 on 1 card or 2 cards... the gf7 GX2's were showing the same performance as "traditional" sli... Only benefit is single slot vs dual. You still had to disable dual monitors and do all the rest of the sli crap to get it working on unsupported games.

as for ati, unsure what their dual on one will do, but as mentioned on the tom's article the ati version seems to scale better than Nv's. Granted, I think even older versions of crossfire scaled better than sli clock for clock.
 



Oh ok, good to know. Thanks for the information. I am now smarterer.

And I have an elevated level of consciousness because I can make the woman swing both ways...AND stare at her tits.

I am 26 by the way, and still enjoy the juvenile excitement of animated boobies. :ange: