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So... Has any of the "preview" sites/people posted a day1 "full" review of the 5060 yet?

I ask, because this also means that nVidia is signaling all independent reviewers with an ounce left of self respect and consumer rights advocacy, will see the writing on the wall from nVidia: "fold or you're out".

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logainofhades said:
Nvidia created another PR disaster, and now has to react to it. Sadly, they will learn nothing from this, and do it again come 60 series.
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Yeah this is spot on. I actually joined/posted on Gamerant after reading the RTX 5060 GPU 'preview' which read like a long form Nvidia PR team authored ad. It was really sad... I have read their stuff for sometime so to say I am disappointed is an understatement. Nvidia is being horrible and the fact some review sites are playing along is even worse. I am so very glad to see Tom's did not participate in this farce. Anyways they deleted my post after replying to it only to delete another post on the actual review article as well. I will not being using their site going forward.

1st deleted post reply ( I don't have the direct first post as I didn't think to save it as who would delete a basic criticism? but you can read most of it and the reply which is also now deleted)
2nd deleted post (learned my lesson and saved it immediately)
 
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-Fran- said:
So... Has any of the "preview" sites/people posted a day1 "full" review of the 5060 yet?
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atomicWAR said:
Yeah this is spot on. I actually joined/posted on Gamerant after reading the RTX 5060 GPU 'preview' which read like a long form Nvidia PR team authored ad. It was really sad... I have read their stuff for sometime so to say I am disappointed is an understatement. Nvidia is being horrible and the fact some review sites are playing along is even worse. I am so very glad to see Tom's did not participate in this farce.
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Edit: incorrect, I address this in a post below.
Some of you don't seem to know Tom's did the restricted preview too, although I liked their take. It's a well made article, I don't mind given the way they handled it.
 
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logainofhades said:
Nvidia created another PR disaster, and now has to react to it. Sadly, they will learn nothing from this, and do it again come 60 series.
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You are probably right but at least credible people are giving Nvidia a real hard time now. Just check out the two Steve youtube videos over the past day or two, particular GN Steve. Ripped Nvidia a new one. Hopefully it reaches enough people to make it gurt. But as long as the ODM's keep putting *60's in their computers I doubt it will be much. Not to mention all the money they make in AI/DC.
 
AnarchistHamster said:
Some of you don't seem to know Tom's did the restricted preview too, although I liked their take. It's a well made article, I don't mind given the way they handled it.
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Tom's Hardware? I do not see anything in their front page. Also, I am not sure if you're referring to Tom's Guide, as I can't find the "preview" in there either. Care to share a link?

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AnarchistHamster said:
Some of you don't seem to know Tom's did the restricted preview too, although I liked their take. It's a well made article, I don't mind given the way they handled it.
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Tom's claimed to not do it. Source please? They did a piece on another outlets preview but that is not exactly the same plus the outlet did not follow the strict guidelines in place from what I remember.
 
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greenreaper said:
They did "we didn't do it but here's the results from those who did along with a similar headline"
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Incorrect they did not. This is Tomhardware reporting on Ascii.jp another site who did do the preview for the release drivers. That is not taking part in the preview to get release drivers like Gamerant, Accii.jp and other sites did. Do you see day one review on the RTX 5060 on Tom's?

Edit: I miss read their post due to a missing a in "they did a". I address it below further but the short is TH would have been better served leaving the percent increase out of the title and not shown benchmarks in the article. But TH calling out those who did a preview is spot on.
 
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-Fran- said:
I'll agree that rehashing the tile is rather pathetic, as it feels like a "daddy, we could have done it as well!". At worst, it would be a "we're spreading the same message, but not even being paid for it", which is... Sad.

Also, we were missing Jay:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_CuOTK-XiY


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No Tom's didn't. Fake news. That is them reporting on another site to get the word out about the practice. Thus no day one review for the RTX 5060 on tom's. Point being though I agree we need to get the word out this kind of reporting will not be tolerated. And Nvidia putting these kinds of restrictions on products also will not be tolerated. Spread the word.
 
atomicWAR said:
No Tom's didn't. Fake news. That is them reporting on another site to get the word out about the practice. Thus no day one review for the RTX 5060 on tom's. Point being though I agree we need to get the word out this kind of reporting will not be tolerated. And Nvidia putting these kinds of restrictions on products also will not be tolerated. Spread the word.
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No, they are correct: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-com...4060-with-frame-generation-in-new-gpu-preview

The title is: "Nvidia RTX 5060 is up to 25% faster than RTX 4060 with frame generation in new GPU preview".

I know you're giving Tom's editorial the benefit of the doubt, but... I don't know...

I like Aaron (Techy) a lot, personally, but I have to call it out when pointed out to me, as I missed it.

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No, they are correct: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-com...4060-with-frame-generation-in-new-gpu-preview

The title is: "Nvidia RTX 5060 is up to 25% faster than RTX 4060 with frame generation in new GPU preview".

I know you're giving Tom's editorial the benefit of the doubt, but... I don't know...

I like Aaron (Techy) a lot, personally, but I have to call it out when pointed out to me, as I missed it.

Regards.
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I've read it three times now... twice today to see if I missed something. What I am reading is tom's reporting on other sites who did do the preview for day one drivers. What those sites reported as testing requirements. The need for using MFG and not testing against the 4060. Where I can see a small point of contention is the posting of benchmarks/percent increase. I think it would have been better not to. But that is about it imo. Because IF Tom's had agreed to the preview requirements, where is the day one review on Tom's?
 
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atomicWAR said:
I've read it three times now... twice today to see if I missed something. What I am reading is tom's reporting on other sites who did do the preview for day one drivers. What those sites reported as testing requirements. The need for using MFG and not testing against the 4060. Where I can see a small point of contention is the posting of benchmarks/percent increase. I think it would have been better not to. But that is about it imo. Because IF Tom's had agreed to the preview requirements, where is the day one review on Tom's?
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Ah, I see. What I'm agreeing to is this statement: "we didn't do it but here's the results from those who did along with a similar headline" from the other person.

I agree the contents make it clear it's not Tom's who did any of the data gathering and analysis, except the soft extrapolation, but the title is my problem, as the other person pointed out.

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Ah, I see. What I'm agreeing to is this statement: "we didn't do it but here's the results from those who did along with a similar headline" from the other person.

I agree the contents make it clear it's not Tom's who did any of the data gathering and analysis, except the soft extrapolation, but the title is my problem, as the other person pointed out.

Regards.
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Tomsguides did a "preview" and should be scorned for it.

https://www.tomsguide.com/gaming/pc-gaming/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5060-first-impressions
 
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Multiple people have caught that the Tom's article I was referring to was aggregating from other sources. I skipped too many paragraphs in the intro, glimpsed it as set-up writing prior to expounding upon the data.
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Tom's Hardware? I do not see anything in their front page. Also, I am not sure if you're referring to Tom's Guide, as I can't find the "preview" in there either. Care to share a link?

Regards.
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Hardware Unboxed mentioned Tom's Guide had done it, & I heard it as Tom's Hardware because I didn't know Tom's Guide was a thing that existed until I read your comment right there in that quote. The mention is at 14:38 that is what spun my head to come hear immediately & see it for myself.
View: https://youtu.be/QtFDz-BQLew?t=878
 
atomicWAR said:
Incorrect they did not. This is Tomhardware reporting on Ascii.jp another site who did do the preview for the release drivers. That is not taking part in the preview to get release drivers like Gamerant, Accii.jp and other sites did. Do you see day one review on the RTX 5060 on Tom's?
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You are misunderstanding Green Reaper, they are saying TH did not. Read it with the "a" that is missing: "They did a: We didn't do it but here's the results from those who did along with a similar headline." Aside from that, if people dislike TH spreading the compromised coverage then that's their own complaint, not the same topic as accepting the compromised privileges.

Dang I sure made a mess of things with my mistake!
 
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Multiple people have caught that the Tom's article I was referring to was aggregating from other sources. I skipped too many paragraphs in the intro, glimpsed it as set-up writing prior to expounding upon the data.

Hardware Unboxed mentioned Tom's Guide had done it, & I heard it as Tom's Hardware because I didn't know Tom's Guide was a thing that existed until I read your comment right there in that quote. The mention is at 14:38 that is what spun my head to come hear immediately & see it for myself.
View: https://youtu.be/QtFDz-BQLew?t=878
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I watched their video (and all the other ones which have popped), but I couldn't find the article they were quoting from Tom's Guide myself, but did find the others mentioned, so I just assumed HUB Steve made a mistake. Thunder64 found it for me, so yeah.

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PCGamer has some benchmarks, looks pretty good so nVidia doesn't appear to be hiding anything. If you really care about this issue, don't run nVidia, simple as that.
 
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