News Nvidia Reportedly Runs Sting on Fake Chinese GeForce GPUs

[Admin]

A new report from the Chinese publication MyDrivers claims that Nvidia is cooperating with online retailers to remove fake GeForce gaming graphics cards.

Nvidia Reportedly Runs Sting on Fake Chinese GeForce GPUs : Read more

 

[Metal Messiah.]

Apart from 51Risc, Corn (what a funny name though!), Mllse, and Peladn, these are some more graphics card brands from China that cannot be trusted, and should be avoided like a plague. They have no official website, got no product reviews/ratings, and obviously have fake specs.

• Ocamo
• FullColor
• Macy
• GraphicsPlayer
• Veineda
• XHVGA
• Hongsun
• Vamery
• Folon
• Bingying
• Jieshuo

But AX GAMING, Dataland, Vastarmor, and MAXSUN brands are not fake.

 

[Avro Arrow]

"However, to avoid fakes, Nvidia ostensibly suggests consumers pick up a post-mining boom SKU that has enjoyed a facelift along the lines of the GeForce RTX 3060 Ti GDDR6X or the GeForce RTX 3060 8GB. "

So... to avoid fakes, nVidia recommends buying what amounts to one of their own fakes, the RTX 3060 8GB:

I don't know how Zhiye Liu managed to not notice this irony because if I had written the article, I'd have been ALL OVER THAT!

 

[thisisaname]

Apart from 51Risc, Corn (what a funny name though!), Mllse, and Peladn, these are some more graphics card brands from China that cannot be trusted, and should be avoided like a plague. They have no official website, got no product reviews/ratings, and obviously have fake specs.

• Ocamo
• FullColor
• Macy
• GraphicsPlayer
• Veineda
• XHVGA
• Hongsun
• Vamery
• Folon

But AX GAMING, Dataland, Vastarmor, and MAXSUN brands are not fake.

Only mention I have heard of MAXSUN was not very good.

 

[emike09]

GPU miners have moved from ETH to Kaspa, so we're seeing less miners trying to offload their GPUs.

 

[Metal Messiah.]

Only mention I have heard of MAXSUN was not very good.

Well I didn't say it's a very good GPU brand, but at least it is far more trustworthy than other Asian/Chinese brands. It's not a fake company though. In fact, some of their models are pretty much rock solid in build quality, especially the iCraft series, and even MGG.

Maxsun is actually a sub-brand of the Shangke tech Group which sells many PC products, including GPUs, motherboards and storage solutions. This group owns two brands: MaxSun and Soyo, both well known to Chinese customers, but some cards are even sold on Newegg.

They are well reviewed cards and perform similar to mid-range/high-end cards from MSI, Gigabyte, and even Asus in some cases. Check this company profile for more details.

MAXSUN

Here is the list of some of the well known models from MaxSun.

https://videocardz.net/browse/maxsun

Have you seen a GPU with 5 fans, lol. Check this funky card design from MaxSun. Even the edges are smooth and curved hardly seen in any other GPU brand's SKU.

MaxSun unveils GeForce RTX 4080/4070 Ti Mega Gamer GPU with FIVE fans - VideoCardz.com

 

[ThatMouse]

"eBay or, more recently, via third-party marketplaces at Amazon or Newegg." Does more harm to these places than anything. Amazon and NewEgg both have a "marketplace" that is just as bad a ebay.

 

[RedBear87]

The logic is that since Ada launched after the mining boom, there shouldn't be any recycled GeForce RTX 4090 or GeForce RTX 4080 mining graphics cards around.

The logic is really that they want you to buy their new/newish stuff, instead of the GPU chips that they've oversupplied to miners during the peak of the crypto frenzy. Whether this results in a hassle free experience for the average consumer is completely incidental for Ngreedia. What they want is your money and they don't get a single cent from those laptop chips repurposed into frankestein desktop GPUs that require modified drivers.

 

[dk382]

Has anyone actually tested Peladn cards? They're always among the cheapest 30-series cards on Newegg, but they're not unrealistically cheap. I thought maybe they were a known chinese brand that I never heard of before, but are they actually scammers?

 

[geok1ng]

I think the word fake does not means what the author of the text thinks It means.

If a chinese hardware manufacturer take an OEM or a partner card, refurbishes It and tries to sell its not fake. Its refurbished.

I can not vouch for every chinese "brand" on Aliexpress, but many of the names mentioned here and on the article are respectable sellers on Aliexpress with thousands of reviews from buyers on YouTube.

Colorful is probably one of the best mainland china gpu brands.
Maxsun and to a lesser degree Soyo cards are not behind Colorful in quality. I place these 3 brands way above the crap gigabyte sells under their Eagle line.

Jieshuo sells good refurbished cards with their coolers and stickers. There is nothing fake on the 2080ti they sold me.

Cctng, peladn, mllsse, 51risc sell mid to low end refurbished cards. I have seen a few reports of DOA cards from them, but i never saw a truly fake card out of their stores. Quite the opposite, their official stores on Aliexpress are honest enough to refund DOA cards , more so after the buyer uploads a video on YouTube about it. I recommend their rx 5500 5600 5700xt cards from the red side and their 2060 super from the green side.

There are many chinese cards priced above my 2080ti, but i have not seem them priced as well as the 300 dollars i payed on mine.

 

[Stesmi]

Soyo brings back memories. Back when 440BX and GX were a thing, I had a very solid dual slot Soyo 440GX board. Had first two P3-450 and then P3-700 CPUs on it. The only downside was that the slots were a bit close together, so one CPU ran a bit hotter than the other. Yes, slot, not socket, not a typo.
Anyone remember the time you actually had to enable SMP support in your Linux kernel?

 

[hennes]

I remember. Asus P2B-D board with a pair of slot 1 for CPU's. Filled with socket 370 to slot 1 convertors which had a jumper to enable SMP. Bclock to 83MHz instead of 66MHz. Recompiling the kernel was never so fast, less thanan hour!

Ofcourse that was AGP era. And I never found a graphics card wich liked 25% (or 50% if run at BCLOCK 100MHz) overclock. So 3D gaming was instant crash. And going slightly back to topic, 2MiB graphics card era, or 4MiB if lucky and you needed high resolution. And I never heard of shipping all the way from China.


Times sure have changed since.

 

[bit_user]

Maxsun is actually a sub-brand of the Shangke tech Group which sells many PC products, including GPUs, motherboards and storage solutions. This group owns two brands: MaxSun and Soyo, both well known to Chinese customers, but some cards are even sold on Newegg.

We had a Soyo Pentium motherboard, back in the mid-1990's. Sadly, they went bankrupt in 2009. According to Wikipedia, there might be an indirect connection.

"Soyo Computer Inc. a Taiwan-based company made computer components, and were well known for their motherboards. Their headquarters were in Taipei and their sales (at least NA sales) were handled by their CA office. They ceased production of electronics around 2005 and focused on the manufacture of plastics.[2] While no longer operational in USA and Taiwan, most of the assets were shipped to Shenzhen, China and PC production still goes on for the Chinese market. "

Soyo Group - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Metal Messiah.]

We had a Soyo Pentium motherboard, back in the mid-1990's. Sadly, they went bankrupt in 2009. According to Wikipedia, there might be an indirect connection.

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"Soyo Computer Inc. a Taiwan-based company made computer components, and were well known for their motherboards. Their headquarters were in Taipei and their sales (at least NA sales) were handled by their CA office. They ceased production of electronics around 2005 and focused on the manufacture of plastics.[2] While no longer operational in USA and Taiwan, most of the assets were shipped to Shenzhen, China and PC production still goes on for the Chinese market. "​

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Soyo Group - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Interesting. I'm not sure whether I ever head of SOYO motherboards before, but I think you are correct. According to this linkedin profile, it does state Shangke tech owned the brand SOYO as well.

For some odd reason, this URL sometimes don't work properly.

https://cn.linkedin.com/company/maxsun-motherboards

"Shangke Group,which was founded in Guangzhou, China in 1994, is a national high-tech enterprise based on the research and development of consumer digital, computer and peripheral products. It owns the consumer digital brand "TECLAST", a computer hardware and peripheral product brands "MAXSUN"and "SOYO".

The three major brands "TECLAST", "MAXSUN" and "SOYO" cover the fields of PC motherboards, Graphic cards, Laptop PC, Tablet PC, monitors, RAM , SSD, Power bank supplies. Products are exported to more than 160 countries and regions around the world, providing intelligent products and services for hundreds of millions of consumers."