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Should've been released right from the start. I guess Nvidia finally realized that no gamer in their right mind would ever consider paying a <Mod Edit> load of money for crappy 8 or 12 GB GPUs.

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sizzling said:
Problem is the 16GB version has $100 higher MSRP making it way overpriced for a 60/60Ti tier card.
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Be that as it may, it's still a good deal, considering the fact that 4070 Ti costs as much as 1,000$ and it only has 12 GBs of VRAM.
 
valthuer said:
Be that as it may, it's still a good deal, considering the fact that 4070 Ti costs as much as 1,000$ and it only has 12 GBs of VRAM.
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I don’t see how you can call it a good deal, comparing to another terribly priced product doesn’t make it a good deal. If you start believing that then you are falling for NVidia’s pricing and marketing strategy for 4000 series.
 
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valthuer said:
Be that as it may, it's still a good deal, considering the fact that 4070 Ti costs as much as 1,000$ and it only has 12 GBs of VRAM.
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That is not a GOOD DEAL. 4060 Ti should've been equipped with 12GB+ VRAM for $299 and called the 4060. The 4060 we got is a 4050 Ti. So the 4060 Ti is 50% overpriced and the $30 of 8GB VRAM they are asking $100. Despite even all that it's a $499 GPU pushing memory through a 128-bit bus like sucking golf ball through a garden hose. Should've been 192-bit bus like its predecessor.

Nvidia is lost. Too many "Tis" and "Supers" have totally lost sight of what this card is supposed to be. There used to be just the x60 and the x80. Then they shoved an x70 in there, then created a Titan-like x90. With all these Ti's in between, the x60 has gone from 2nd best, to midrange, to entry level but the prices do not reflect its entry level performance. It should perform at least as well as a 4070 for $399 and up.
 
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sizzling said:
I don’t see how you can call it a good deal, comparing to another terribly priced product doesn’t make it a good deal. If you start believing that then you are falling for NVidia’s pricing and marketing strategy for 4000 series.
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Prices are not gonna drop any time soon. The GPU market will never go back to the way it was a few years back.

Not falling for anything.

As things stand right now, 4090 is the only graphics card worthy in this latest generation of Nvidia GPUs.

The rest of them, are mostly crappy or otherwise overpriced cards.

However, a 16 GB 4060 Ti, would be a good way to start improving this series, especially considering the fact that the next 16 GB GPU in the RTX 40 series, is 4080, which could cost as much as 1,300$.
 
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12GB of VRAM is more than enough for games.
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Try telling that to games like Far Cry 6, Resident Evil 4 remake and The Last Of Us, that, even at 1080p, will CTD with Direct 3D fatal errors, if you try and raise the settings.

Maybe 12 GBs were OK for yesterday's games.

Not anymore.
 
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And STILL the previous generations of cards are better. Minimum buss width should have been 256bit or wider. This is not rocket science but nVidia is simply grabbing your cash without offering reasonable returns of performance. I've got a 1080Ti and a 3090 and both will continue to serve until I see serious engineering going into a reasonably priced card. I may end up with AMD or even Arc cards (if Intel improves their drivers sufficiently) in the future. Especially after watching that CEO making such a fool of himself in Taiwan.
 
FunSurfer said:
Tough and miserable choice for the mid-range gamer: 12GB on 192bit or 16GB on 128bit... Where is our perfect 4070 16GB 256bit?
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Won't happen until there is some serious market/economic impacts on nvidia. Right now, they have the plush cash reserve to outlast the mistakes they're making in their current engineering and market strategies. Once they are taken down some notches, we MAY see some consumer driven changes. But the 40 series is not going to make it. There are too many who will complain about the $1600 msrp but then still buy the 4090 so the company has no incentive to improve. As I said before, I do love the cards I have but won't buy this generation unless they get serious.
 
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low 30 - 70
low to mid 70 - 200
mid to high 200 - 400
high to enthusiast 400 - 600
Ultimate Sun burner 600 - 2000
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Your valuation of GPUs, is over a decade old.

Back in 2011, i could buy an MSI Radeon HD 6950 for 300$, flash its BIOS into a 6970 and, in an instant, become the proud owner of maybe the second best GPU at that time.

Those were the days, man!

Problem is, we ain't going back to those years, any time soon.

Miners, trashed the market to where it is now.

I remember the $699 1080 Ti. I doubt we'd be seeing $699 4090s in today's world.

There is no way that an enthusiast card would cost 400 - 600$ in 2023, given the way the market and the world economy has went the last 6 years.

Big pipe dream you got going on there.

Premium PC gaming, should command a premium price.
 
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Your valuation of GPUs, is over a decade old.

Back in 2011, i could buy an MSI Radeon HD 6950 for 300$, flash its BIOS into a 6970 and, in an instant, become the proud owner of maybe the second best GPU at that time.

Those were the days, man!

Problem is, we ain't going back to those years, any time soon.

Miners, trashed the market to where it is now.

I remember the $699 1080 Ti. I doubt we'd be seeing $699 4090s in today's world.

There is no way that an enthusiast card would cost 400 - 600$ in 2023, given the way the market and the world economy has went the last 6 years.

Big pipe dream you got going on there.

Premium PC gaming, should command a premium price.
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Not to mention the exorbitant prices for silicon wafers these days…$3940 per wafer for 16nm (Nvidia 1000 series) vs $16988 for TSMC 5nm (Nvidia 4000 series). Not justifying Nvidia’s record breaking >60% margins, but just showing that even if Nvidia maintained the same pricing index as they used for the 1000 series, the 4000 series would still cost a lot more. (PS: I did not take into account die sizes, obviously smaller 4000 series dies would lessen the impact of the 4.25x increase in wafer prices, but would be a significant increase in cost regardless )
 
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The Historical Fidelity said:
Not to mention the exorbitant prices for silicon wafers these days…$3940 per wafer for 16nm (Nvidia 1000 series) vs $16988 for TSMC 5nm (Nvidia 4000 series). Not justifying Nvidia’s record breaking >60% margins, but just showing that even if Nvidia maintained the same pricing index as they used for the 1000 series, the 4000 series would still cost a lot more. (PS: I did not take into account die sizes, obviously smaller 4000 series dies would lessen the impact of the 4.25x increase in wafer prices, but would be a significant increase in cost regardless )
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Exactly.

Even in a perfect world at a minimum the 4090 should be a $1200 card IMHO... but the world isn't perfect.
 
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"Nvidia's GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16GB could be one of the most anticipated graphics card among gamers."

I don't think you read the room. If you peruse any number of subreddits, forums, discord servers, etc. you'll see that there are not many people who are remotely interested. Sure, there are a few people that will die on that hill defending these prices and products but most people are wise enough to know better.
 
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