Nvidia RTX 5070 vs AMD RX 9070 Face Off

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So for someone who is fine with DLSS, Framegen and FSR and games at 1440p, the 5070 is probably the better option, even if it doesn't quite have the raw power of the 9070, or the 16GB (as that's only likely to be an issue at 4K). Especially as it's currently about £80 cheaper in the UK.

Is that about right?

Or maybe wait for the 5070 super with 16gb?
 
Valuables8335 said:
So for someone who is fine with DLSS, Framegen and FSR and games at 1440p, the 5070 is probably the better option, even if it doesn't quite have the raw power of the 9070, or the 16GB (as that's only likely to be an issue at 4K). Especially as it's currently about £80 cheaper in the UK.

Is that about right?

Or maybe wait for the 5070 super with 16gb?
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Um, no, that's not what I got from the review... but granted I did read it quickly. It seems the 9070 is faster at 1440p than the 5070 in several games without needing to rely on software solutions. I think anytime you can avoid Framegen stuff, the better. But of course budget is a big factor. And if you care a lot about pathtracing, then I would go with the 5070.
 
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Valuables8335 said:
So for someone who is fine with DLSS, Framegen and FSR and games at 1440p, the 5070 is probably the better option, even if it doesn't quite have the raw power of the 9070, or the 16GB (as that's only likely to be an issue at 4K). Especially as it's currently about £80 cheaper in the UK.

Is that about right?

Or maybe wait for the 5070 super with 16gb?
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It kind of sounds like you want an Nvidia card regardless of the circumstances.
 
Flayed said:
The 5070 is quite a bit cheaper in the UK than the 9070, it's a shame the AMD cards aren't nearer to MSRP
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It is perplexing. Did Nvidia partners finally catch up on their production backlog? Or is there something else at play here? Is demand for the 9070 outpacing the 5070? (Surely not)
 
I recall reading that the RX 9070 can be bios or firmware upgraded to the XT level. I am betting there is no ability to do that with the 5070. It almost makes no sense why they would use the same silicon to make an inferior lower priced device with the only difference between them being software. They are selling each and every card they can produce.
 
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I recall reading that the RX 9070 can be bios or firmware upgraded to the XT level. I am betting there is no ability to do that with the 5070. It almost makes no sense why they would use the same silicon to make an inferior lower priced device with the only difference between them being software. They are selling each and every card they can produce.
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Software wasn't the only difference. There were a few hardware differences. But to your point - since they are so similar, it kind of explains why they only charge $50 less for the non-XT.
 
Jabberwocky79 said:
Um, no, that's not what I got from the review... but granted I did read it quickly. It seems the 9070 is faster at 1440p than the 5070 in several games without needing to rely on software solutions. I think anytime you can avoid Framegen stuff, the better. But of course budget is a big factor. And if you care a lot about pathtracing, then I would go with the 5070.
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I did say I'm quite happy to use framegen and am in no way a visual fidelity purist - higher frame rates with DLSS\Framegen are more important to me than lower frame rates without it.
 
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Jabberwocky79 said:
It is perplexing. Did Nvidia partners finally catch up on their production backlog? Or is there something else at play here? Is demand for the 9070 outpacing the 5070? (Surely not)
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I know it's a somewhat small sample size, but jayztwocents mentioned in a video recently that his local Microcenter told him they have been selling more 9070/9070xt, than they have been 50 series. Between the melty connector, the pitiful v-ram allocation for the price, and the unstable driver issues, there's no way I would buy Nvidia right now, unless I absolutely had to. For instance, my work software does not recommend AMD at all, for graphics. If I had to build a rig to run that software at home, I would have to go Nvidia.
 
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logainofhades said:
I know it's a somewhat small sample size, but jayztwocents mentioned in a video recently that his local Microcenter told him they have been selling more 9070/9070xt, than they have been 50 series. Between the melty connector, the pitiful v-ram allocation for the price, and the unstable driver issues, there's no way I would buy Nvidia right now, unless I absolutely had to. For instance, my work software does not recommend AMD at all, for graphics. If I had to build a rig to run that software at home, I would have to go Nvidia.
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King_V said:
Why not?
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Since Nvidia is such a juggernaut, it's hard to imagine them being the less-popular option, but if true, I'm glad the tides are turning. Their monopoly is not good for the consumer.

I'm in agreement... wouldn't touch a 50 series right now. In another 6 months, most of this negative publicity will subside and they'll recover their currently tarnished reputation. But if I were AMD or Intel, I'd smell blood in the water. I think both companies need to think seriously about making something for the high-end GPU market. As a comparison - Car companies make halo cars, not because they sell millions of them, but in order to increase brand awareness and reputation. AMD and Intel need halo products, regardless of whether they are actually better than Nvidia's or not. Just price them according to their relative performance. Customers need choices - that's exactly why AMD needed to make an 8GB 9060 - to give people a choice besides an 8GB 5060. The more product SKUs they have out there, the bigger market share they gain.

@logainofhades - What software are you talking about? I personally have to run Adobe suite, Figma, and the video editor I use is Filmora. So far, no issues on AMD, even though I know Adobe is in bed with Nvidia.
 
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The main problem with the way this review was done what's the focus on gaming over working. At one point they say since most people are going to be gaming with these cards that's what we focused on however if you are building a computer to do both your work and play games the speed of the work is more important than the speed of the game. You want to be able to finish your work much faster so that then you can watch television or play a couple of games.
 
Helpful comparison, but it seems to me a better face-off would be the 5070Ti and the 9070 XT. And only obliquely related, but since I"m looking to upgrade from a 4070, I'm really curious about the performance difference moving from 12GB VRAM to 16GB. My main gaming is MSFS 2024, and I have a feeling that difference alone will make a significant performance impact. This will be the first time I have seriously considered an AMD GPU in ten years.
 
Viking11 said:
Helpful comparison, but it seems to me a better face-off would be the 5070Ti and the 9070 XT. And only obliquely related, but since I"m looking to upgrade from a 4070, I'm really curious about the performance difference moving from 12GB VRAM to 16GB. My main gaming is MSFS 2024, and I have a feeling that difference alone will make a significant performance impact. This will be the first time I have seriously considered an AMD GPU in ten years.
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I'm a 20-year Nvidia patron who made the switch in March because I couldn't source a 5080. I have been very pleased so far. Of course, I don't know what I've been missing by not getting a 5080, but what I can say is that drivers have been rock solid and I've experienced no issues whatsoever with playing the games that I want to.

As far as the comparison goes, you'll get better raytracing performance from a 5080Ti, but raster performance as of this writing slightly favors the 9070XT: https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-rx-...ain-at-1440p-from-driver-updates-since-launch
 
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