[quotemsg=15300336,0,328798][quotemsg=15296382,0,925801]7.5mil cars used tegra and they don't all use ONE either and it's a solution with software so revenue from here is larger than a mobile device. Just a point of ref. [/quotemsg]I'm having trouble parsing this sentence. Are you saying some cars use multiple tegra chips?
And is anyone actually using tegra for image processing (e.g. lane-keeping, pedestrian detection, etc.)? Or is it all just in-car entertainment, dash board, and Nav?
Yes. Up to 4 AFAIK now, but they just intro'd their driverless type stuff and that won't land for a few years or more probably. They said at some point they could use 16-20 socs.
"Nvidia's Tegra X1 will be used in the Drive CX car platform, which Huang called the "world's most advanced cockpit" for vehicles. It has two Tegra X1 chips"
Just an example of the new system. How many do you think it takes to do driverless stuff? I guess 16-20...LOL. Today they just apply brakes etc. The CX is just for dash crap.
"Nvidia is using two Tegra X1 chips in its new Drive PX hardware platform for the development of intelligent cars."
This will have to be massively amped up to do more than park your car probably. There are more in depth articles all over the place, just a quick google on above.
It was discussed in most CES reports.
"“Your future cars will be the most advanced computers in the world,” Jen-Hsun told a crowd of more than 350 reporters, analysts and partners packed into a ballroom at The Strip’s Four Season’s Hotel. “There will be more computing horsepower inside a car than anything you own today.”
You're going to need more than 4 x1's to beat a top end PC of today correct?
NV is trying to (at some point) take out stuff like google's $150K radar like system for much less. That price is NOT the car, just the system and it's taken years and only has a few routes google's cars can drive on (vegas trip, and some crap in California etc, very limited and it can't ID much yet). I'm guessing NV will leapfrog them quite easily as their tech (as patrick moorhead states) is geared to do this already (image recognition, via 12cams etc). They already have a good start working with Visual Computing companies to ID objects.
For people that think Denver is dead. They clearly state in the update that is NOT true, and it's on future chips.
From above, you can see it's already going to be pretty capable, but we're talking driver assistance here, not DRIVERLESS (years away probably).
"Used in conjunction with up to 12 separate HD cameras, a car with the Drive PX can build an "environment model" that it can use to "see" and "understand" its surroundings—it can supposedly detect other vehicles, pedestrians and cyclists, road signs, and other information. Using something Nvidia calls "deep learning," the system can be trained to detect partially obscured pedestrians, whether school buses or ambulances are flashing their lights, and other context-sensitive things that a real driver might see and respond to."
"All of this data is then used to help the car automatically perform pathfinding and help drivers avoid collisions."
Note however, google is having trouble with this stuff. Green/red light was tough for them until recently...LOL
Just added new abilities last year for SOME signs, railroad crossings etc. As it says not NEARLY ready.
"Basically, every single driving situation that can possibly occur must be painstakingly programmed into the software. It isn’t like Google has built an artificial intelligence that can learn how to drive a car from basic principles — if Google doesn’t tell the car what to do, it doesn’t do anything."
Nvidia's way says it learns every mile it drives. Seems like a faster way if true.
An example of one users google experience:
" Just minutes later, the car proves that hunch right. A vehicle in front turning right on a red light - a manoeuvre allowed in California - fails to spot a jogger crossing the street and comes very close to hitting her.
We are all too busy watching the drama unfold to realise we are heading straight for our own jaywalking jogger up ahead. Luckily for us humans, our driver was not distracted and stopped in the nick of time. "
We'll see how fast a true visual computing company like NV can get this done soon enough I guess. The CES vids were pretty impressive though already.
Regarding numbers in revenue etc note the car solutions with K1 were $50-60 assumed due to software etc.
If you're selling 7.5mil cars x4 socs for example that's 30mil chips at $50-60 you're already at 180mil and who knows if there are more charges and not sure if that's NV's cost or what is charged (never got that info really clear, it was just some stock analysis post at seeking alpha or motley fool etc). Tegra revenue for the year was ~570mil IIRC. I'd sure like to know how many shields they sold though (tablet/handheld both).
Hopefully it makes more sense now Two devices, each using two chips for the tasks you mentioned
, but again valet crap etc, is not driving out on the streets alone yet
This is just the beginning, but I like the future no matter who wins. I'd like to get a chauffeur soon (the car itself that is, nobody in the driver seat at all) so I could have a drink in the back seat all day if desired...ROFL. That will require much more power though IMHO.
Then again, K1 already drives some
Just like google though, not many places (vegas just like google I guess). Note the 550mil SF to vegas trip used the expensive system.
"Audi notes that the system will work from 0 to 70 mph, but when the car approaches an urban area it will alert the driver to take over manual control."
"During a ride in Audi's self-driving car along a freeway in Las Vegas at last year's CES, the system failed and the driver had to take over."
Not so good a year ago.
Guess it made it this year. Clearly still massive limits on these. But google wants theirs on the road in 2020 everywhere. Hmmm...Funny they say it made it, but a driver still had to take over in urban areas from SF to Vegas. I don't really call that success yet if a human was needed a bunch of times still.
Audi using X1 in A8 I guess. Audi guy showing off here a few days later that first nv blog link.
"“With every mile it drives, every hour, the car will learn more and more,” said Ricky Hudi, the carmaker’s executive vice president for electrics/electronics development."
That deep learning system seems better than google's "program every situation" deal. Hype or real, we'll know more soon I guess. Thanks for making me dig deeper...