Nvidia: We're Staying in the Chipset Business

[jonpaul37]

[citation][nom]cabose369[/nom]alright so I am trying to get this straight here....So NVIDIA is going to stop making chipsets for Intel (ok) and AMD (AMD owns ATI so this will in no way affect or hurt AMD). So NVIDIA will then only be making revenue of their desktop graphics cards.... that seems stupid.And this is the PERFECT opportunity for AMD to screw Intel for all the times Intel screwed AMD. If NVIDIA will no longer make dedicated graphics chips for Intel the only other brand that makes graphics chips is ATI (owned by AMD). So AMD could say "screw you Intel, no dedicated ATI cards for you!" and then Intel is f***ed. LOL! (and don't even mention Nehalem cause that is gonna flop hardcore!)This is not going to be pretty!![/citation]


I don't think you're getting the point on this one, Nvidia made chipsets for Intel-based motherboards in the past (for LGA775) so SLI features could be enabled and people could scale 2 Nvidia-based GPU's together. Intel chipsets had ATI's crossfire technology enabled, but in those times, it was one or the other, there was not one single motherboard for the LGA775 platform that would support both Crossfire & SLI.

Fast forward to Nehalem. On every x58 chipset, crossfire is supported and most support SLI with the exception of a few. This was due to Nvidia requiring either their nForce200 chip or a seperate certification (aka, $5.00 royalty fee per board).

As for this actual article, it means that Intel will not allow Nvidia to make ANY chipsets for motherboards that use a core iX CPU as their 4-year agreement with Intel only applies to any platform with an FSB-based architecture, and since the newer x58 & x55 chipsets are not FSB based, Intel claims that Nvidia cannot make chipsets for Core 1X per their agreement.

This will essentially hurt Intel because if Nvidia decides to pull the plug in Intel for SLI, or vice versa, Intel rejects Nvidia, then all that is left is Crossfire. Intel & Nvidia need each other at the moment as does Intel and AMD and Nvidia & AMD. If none cooperated with the other, there would be no SLI or Crossfire. The way i see it so far... Intel & Nvidia don't care about the customer, only their greed. AMD never pulls stunts like Nvidia & Intel do, they always cooperate and for that, i say good job AMD!

 

[thearm]

Good. They have the best chipsets (according to the benchmarks anyway).

 

[thearm]

[citation][nom]demonhorde665[/nom]sad to say but i think nivida may go teh way of 3dfx soon .[/citation]

I don't think so. No one company does everything well. And Nvidia hasn't come out with a new card in a while. Their next card will bet ATI's card (as usual) and even beat the next card ATI comes out with. Nvidia has proved themselves and I think they will continue to do so. A company that specializes in video cards (Nvidia) are, for the most part, going to be better at it than an company that specializes in a lot of different things (Intel). Now, I can see ATI and AMD going the way of 3DFX. That would makes sense to me. I believe both Nvidia and Intel have tricks up their sleeve at all times and AMD and ATI are giving everything they got at all times.

 

[thearm]

Oh and I also want to say. Timing is very important to a company like Nvidia. They've owned AMD/ATI for a long time now and haven't really had to 'show their cards.' But I think they will. I bet that one card Asus made (I think it was Asus) for themselves, that they don't sell to the public, would beat ATI's latest card. I'd like to see the two of them go head to head.

 

[reichscythe]

[citation]This will essentially hurt Intel because if Nvidia decides to pull the plug in Intel for SLI, or vice versa, Intel rejects Nvidia, then all that is left is Crossfire. Intel & Nvidia need each other at the moment as does Intel and AMD and Nvidia & AMD. [/citation]

Ummm... Unless, of course, Lucid's HYDRA is actually worth a lick and utterly obliterates the need for SLI anyway... We'll know for sure in about a month...


This whole announcement is sheer blatherskite... nVid is going on and on about ION and MCP61 parts! MCP61?!? Are they kidding!? These are not "high-end" sector chipsets, kiddies-- the parts they're referring to (and will likely continue to produce) are NOT the major-solution, ultra-dynamic, multi-graphic, destroy-all-competition, "Next Gen," chipsets; these are basically sets for HTPC/Mobile units...

So, really, Tom's had it right yesterday: because this announcement essentially confirms that (unless Intel has a change of heart, or someone settles somewhere) nVidia is effectively OUT of the enthusiast chipset market...

 

[Nossy]

LOL. Nvidia chipsets and GPUs => every early adopters become their beta testers.

Core i5 => good riddance to crappy nvidia northbridges.

Nvidia tend have good benchmark performance in some areas, but usually lacking in SATA/USB/memory performance and most importantly THERMAL issue. There were number of times my 680 chipset was overheating, corrupting my HDD, but my 975/965 mobos never failed on me once.


What happenned to CUDA? I thought GPUs are the next CPUs according to Nvidia? That was the rave when it came out anyway...

 

[jonpaul37]

[citation]Ummm... Unless, of course, Lucid's HYDRA is actually worth a lick and utterly obliterates the need for SLI anyway... We'll know for sure in about a month...[citation]

Actually, we'll know a little sooner...

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15889/1/

 

[belardo]

How come some of the posts here are in GREY? They are very difficult to read.

As someone posts... Without support or need for nVidia chipsets for Core iX and AMD chipsets are easily better than anything nVidia has... other than lack of SLI.

NVidia should phase out of the mainstream/upper end market. But wherever they can make money, they are welcomed at it. Since the AMD 700 series chipsets, I've not touched an nVidia chipset. And intel isn't all that great. I own an intel Quad core system, I do prefer working with AMD 700s... a bit nicer personality and better performance in certain areas.

nVidia can start saving/making money by selling the license for SLI to AMD... but then again, why would AMD want to pay for it? They'd rather have people buy 2 or 3 ATI video cards!

Eventually, with NO chipsets to sell for SLI (The only reason to buy nForce) - nVidia is going to have to make SLI FREE. Why?

1 - AMD won't pay for SLI.
2 - nVidia loses customers who buy 2 ATI cards rather than 1 or 2 Nvidia cards.

So lets bet in 2010... we'll see driver updates that allows SLI for any motherboard. And PhyX... same thing. Without ATI being able to use it (maybe as an PRO option on high end cards), then PhsyX has no chance of becoming standard.

Note: nVidia is getting into the server business, which is going to compete against intel... nVidia is healthier than AMD. AMD has more options.

 

[waffle911]

Let's not forget that, despite nVidia's past missteps in a broad range of markets, they continue to have superior mobile graphics options, integrated or otherwise. Intel practically owns the mobile CPU market, but their chipsets aren't really up to snuff in that arena. That's where nVidia's saving grace lies, and Ion is the perfect example of this, despite its lack of adoption so far (I think I smell a Blue rat, one that likes to chew on Green things).