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The 4870 beats the 280 frequently with 8x aa and 16 af on. But those settings aren't tested most of the time for some reason. I mean lets face it, all these cards give us way more FPS than we need. It's only the filter loads that matter. So in that case, the 4870 > 280 for less than half the price. Count in a 30% boost in any future dx10.1 game and the PhysX mod for Ati cards and you're left with absolutely no excuse to buy the 280/260 GTX... save for linux, ati is bad with linux support.