breakingadam :
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"So what"? "Get over it"?.... I.m not some sort of idiot who does not understand how tech works. I'm with you on some of your points, but the problem is that the Shield is a DEDICATED GAMING HANDHELD DEVICE. It is competing directly with the 3DS & Vita, both of which won't have a refresh for 5-10 years. Although I PERSONALLY understand the Shield is more of a micro Android tablet with a controller attached and some cool software/tech implemented, it still will be judged as the $300 "handheld gaming device" that Nvidia is marketing it as. I mainly was stating that talking about/hyping the next iteration of a device before the first one even ships is a big misstep. Do you see Apple, Samsung, Sony, or any of the other major players doing that? No. I'd also be more understanding if the cpu/gpu were user replaceable/upgradeable down the line (like the "GPU" comparison you were using in your post), but we all know that will not be an option.
First I never said you were an idiot (and that post was to all saying stuff like your comment, it will be beat by next year blah blah - of course and again every year after that). Sorry if that's what you took from my previous post. I mentioned the "people getting burned by kepler" comment which was from antilycus. These statements will be true every year. But they are not bragging about the next shield here (we have no idea how long it's life will be), just the next SOC is being discussed. Maxwell has been talked about for over 2yrs (3?) but we still buy kepler tech anyway. Kepler buyers aren't burned they just want a card NOW and can't wait apparently. If you wait for some tech, you'll be waiting forever as you will be "burned" every year by the next rev (except in cpus' they seem to have slowed to a crawl because of AMD being so far behind Intel gives nothing).
This is playing against vita/3ds and even if kepler tech soc comes next year and even a new shield rev the games won't be aimed at T5 for a long time until T5 is middle of the road (I'd guess about when T6 comes we'll start seeing some T5 type stuff, maybe not even then). They don't have ONE game aimed yet at T4 or S800 (hawken is but it's not out yet). So you won't be out of date and they are moving towards multiple resolutions in games on android (settings like on PC's now, google knows this needs to get done), so you should be able to turn a T5/T6 game down to 720p in settings and still play on shield rev1 without issues, or turn off some settings that keep fps up high. I hope they rev this yearly or at least every 2 then allow all to play via settings instead of holding us in a 5-10yr stuck in stone device. I want that gone. I want less holding us back and more going forward. Consoles need to die precisely because they are stuck in stone for so long holding us back. Just make games have settings on mobile or the ability to recognize a soc's power and turn off a few graphical features so it runs fast on lower hardware. That's much better than saying we won't make better games because hardware is stuck until 2021 etc.
Don't forget this streams PC gpus, plays all current games from googleplay (and they have a lot of great ones already) etc. It's also a portable movie player with hdmi out, miracast etc. For that vita/3ds are useless. These features will always be usable and get better with apps or android os upgrades. Nvidia isn't going to make a $300 device useless with rev2 next year (if they don't just wait for the next rev T6 to fully allow 1080p fun, as I think T5 may come up short for anything better than fully maxed out 720p xbox360/ps3 type stuff). Settings will ensure all can play on older versions and T3 devices already out there.
Anyway, I don't see anything mentioned about Shield Rev2 here, just "here comes kepler mobile and our features/drivers from the desktop" so to speak. All soc makers brag yearly about their next stuff, NV has to do it too. Yes sony/samsung/apple/MS etc all brag about the next version of everything. SurfaceRT r2 for example has T4 or S800 (wifi or lte). Should they not do that because someone with T3 rev1 surface might get ticked? They have to. SurfaceRT r2 isn't cpu upgradable either. Every year apple, samsung etc brag about the next coming phone. Samsund already bragging about octa rev2 just this week. Did Gs4 OctaR1 buyers just get burned? Sure and so will octa rev2 buyers next year by 20nm chips
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