NZXT Kraken x62 push and pull possible in Phanteks Eclipse P300 Tempered case? And help with components to workstation.

[KeimiOne]

Hi guys I build new workstation and I need help with case can I put in to Phanteks Eclipse P300 NZXT Kraken x62? When you have other pretty case for me you can write it here and I will look at it.

Actual copponets to workstation:
ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING
Intel Core i7-8700K
NZXT Kraken X62
Fujitsu NVIDIA Quadro P4000 8 GB
HyperX 32GB KIT DDR4 3000MHz CL15 Predator Series
Samsung 970 EVO 500 GB
Corsair RM750x (2018)

If you want give me give advice about components.

 

[ZRace]

First question that arises: Why a Quadro GPU? Are you actually going to do professional 3D work with it?

Anyways, on to your question: Yes, the Kraken X62 should fit, but only in the front. Push & pull might get pretty close though, the motherboard or the cables connected to it might get in the way.

 

[Eximo]

Yes, the P300 would work with the X62.

You don't typically find water coolers on workstations either, they don't fail gracefully. A large heatsink will at least let you limp along, pump failure (or leakage) usually means instant failure. Seems a bit odd for a workstation, mixing Quadro with a consumer grade CPU with dual channel non-ECC memory. But a middle ground would be quad channel memory with either Intel X299 or AMD Threadripper.

For the price of that motherboard I would go ahead and jump on the X299 platform:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7800X 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($356.93 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - R1 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.95 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: ASRock - X299 Extreme4 ATX LGA2066 Motherboard ($181.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($345.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($197.95 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Video Card: PNY - Quadro P4000 8GB Video Card ($772.47 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $2154.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-05 10:30 EDT-0400

 

[Eximo]

As for cases:

The above build has what I consider to be the best all around mesh front case on the market. Not the most polished case, but it has fairly extreme adaptability. (I have dual 280mm radiators in it (Push/Pull in the front), but it will also do 360mm/240mm configs. Not 100% sure dual 360mm is possible, I would have to take some measurements)

If you prefer the closed off front style, I like the look of the some of BeQuiet's cases (They also make some decent CPU coolers)

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/r2QRsY/be-quiet-dark-base-700-atx-mid-tower-case-dark-base-700
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/D4M323/be-quiet-dark-base-pro-900-black-atx-full-tower-case-bgw11

Tons of options if you look at AIO coolers though, so you might have to start listing case preferences.

 

[KeimiOne]

First question that arises: Why a Quadro GPU? Are you actually going to do professional 3D work with it?

Anyways, on to your question: Yes, the Kraken X62 should fit, but only in the front. Push & pull might get pretty close though, the motherboard or the cables connected to it might get in the way.

I am photographer and video maker and want computer on 2-3 years. I have now i7 4790k, GTX 970 and 16Gb ram and computer not be too much smooth. He lagging too much and i am angry on this.

 

[KeimiOne]

Yes, the P300 would work with the X62.

You don't typically find water coolers on workstations either, they don't fail gracefully. A large heatsink will at least let you limp along, pump failure (or leakage) usually means instant failure. Seems a bit odd for a workstation, mixing Quadro with a consumer grade CPU with dual channel non-ECC memory. But a middle ground would be quad channel memory with either Intel X299 or AMD Threadripper.

For the price of that motherboard I would go ahead and jump on the X299 platform:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7800X 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($356.93 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - R1 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.95 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: ASRock - X299 Extreme4 ATX LGA2066 Motherboard ($181.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($345.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($197.95 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Video Card: PNY - Quadro P4000 8GB Video Card ($772.47 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $2154.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-05 10:30 EDT-0400

Thank you. I build workstation first time I builded all time gaming PC for me but my old gaming pc is not good for my work it is not be smooth and my application crash too often. You think your build is good for photographer, video maker and graphick designer ? Intel Core i7-7800X dont support 3000Mhz RAM and CRYORIG - R1 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler I can't buy in my country and case same.

 

[Eximo]

Alternatives to Cryorig would be BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 3 or 4, Noctua NH-D14 or NH-D15, Phanteks PH-TC14PE, and a few others in the $70-90 range. Only a few actual manufactures of AIO water coolers, so basically take your pick if you want to use one.

The memory you are looking at is overclocked, requiring XMP profiles or manual tuning to reach those speeds. The i7-8700k, only officially supports 2666Mhz. Anything beyond that is an overclock. But that is what K and X class chips are for. People commonly run them at much higher frequencies.

A lot depends on the software you are using. So listing that would be useful.

An i7-4790k is still a very competent CPU. However, the GTX970 has some flaws that might be causing your issues. If your file sizes are large enough you might be hitting the memory limits (3.5GB + .5GB for the 970) which is causing your problems. Then a cheaper gaming GPU with 8GB of memory like the GTX1070 could be enough. Or you could get an GTX1080Ti 11GB for about the same price as the Quadro P4000, or look at a 12GB Titan Xp

As for available parts in your country, you would have to specify where that is and what retailers offer in your area.

 

[Eximo]

As for crashing, pretty much what ECC memory is for. So a Quadro and ECC memory in a supported motherboard/CPU should reduce crashing problems. Adds a bit of latency and ECC memory doesn't come faster than 2666Mhz.

You would have to go with LGA3647 and Xeon for Intel, which is basically enterprise grade hardware. Or you can drop back to Ryzen Pro or Threadripper for ECC support.

 

[Eximo]

Here is a Threadripper build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1900X 3.8GHz 8-Core Processor ($429.98 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Enermax - LiqTech TR4 240 102.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($117.24 @ Newegg Business)
Motherboard: MSI - X399 SLI PLUS ATX TR4 Motherboard ($279.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($105.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($105.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($105.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($105.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($197.95 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Video Card: PNY - Quadro P4000 8GB Video Card ($772.47 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $2390.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-05 15:25 EDT-0400

Looks like you can get an 8-core Xeon, 32GB of 2666Mhz ECC memory, Quadro P4000 and a 512GB NVMe SSD from Dell in a fully assembled system for about $4,000 for a retail equivalent.

 

[KeimiOne]

Alternatives to Cryorig would be BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 3 or 4, Noctua NH-D14 or NH-D15, Phanteks PH-TC14PE, and a few others in the $70-90 range. Only a few actual manufactures of AIO water coolers, so basically take your pick if you want to use one.

The memory you are looking at is overclocked, requiring XMP profiles or manual tuning to reach those speeds. The i7-8700k, only officially supports 2666Mhz. Anything beyond that is an overclock. But that is what K and X class chips are for. People commonly run them at much higher frequencies.

A lot depends on the software you are using. So listing that would be useful.

An i7-4790k is still a very competent CPU. However, the GTX970 has some flaws that might be causing your issues. If your file sizes are large enough you might be hitting the memory limits (3.5GB + .5GB for the 970) which is causing your problems. Then a cheaper gaming GPU with 8GB of memory like the GTX1070 could be enough. Or you could get an GTX1080Ti 11GB for about the same price as the Quadro P4000, or look at a 12GB Titan Xp

As for available parts in your country, you would have to specify where that is and what retailers offer in your area.

Here is a Threadripper build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1900X 3.8GHz 8-Core Processor ($429.98 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Enermax - LiqTech TR4 240 102.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($117.24 @ Newegg Business)
Motherboard: MSI - X399 SLI PLUS ATX TR4 Motherboard ($279.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($105.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($105.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($105.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($105.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($197.95 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Video Card: PNY - Quadro P4000 8GB Video Card ($772.47 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $2390.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-05 15:25 EDT-0400

Looks like you can get an 8-core Xeon, 32GB of 2666Mhz ECC memory, Quadro P4000 and a 512GB NVMe SSD from Dell in a fully assembled system for about $4,000 for a retail equivalent.

Thank you for help. I try to buy your first build with Intel. I have two more questions I can put in Phanteks Eclipse P300 Tempered or NZXT S340 BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 3 and which fans are best in the case?

 

[Eximo]

Dark Rock 3 or 4 would fit, but not the Pro versions. Presumably they are a little taller.

As for fans, it will support two 140mm or two 120mm in the front. It comes with one rear 120mm and a top mount for another 140mm or 120mm fan.

I would probably go for the two 140mm fans in the front and have the 120mm in the rear as exhaust. Not sure that the top mounted fan is necessary, but you could add that if it fits above the CPU cooler.

You can stick with NZXT for fans if you want. Plenty of brands to choose from though. I've personally tested:
Corsair SP120 (Static Pressure, for radiators and heatsinks)
Corsair AF140 (Airflow for getting air in a case)
Phanteks PH-F140SP (Static Pressure)
Cougar Vortex 120mm (Static Pressure)
Xigmatek makes some decent fans, but they don't seem to be making the model I have.
Arctic has some decent static pressure fans.
I have a pile of Bitfenix fans, their standard case fans are decent for the money, same for Cooler Master. I don't recommend the high end BitFenix fans, a bit loud for their performance.

Generally to identify static pressure fans vs airflow fans is that static pressure fans have large blades close together. Airflow fans smaller widely spaced blades.

A common home built workstation fan would probably be something from Noctua or Sharkoon. They are expensive, but considered to be the best.

 

[KeimiOne]

Dark Rock 3 or 4 would fit, but not the Pro versions. Presumably they are a little taller.

As for fans, it will support two 140mm or two 120mm in the front. It comes with one rear 120mm and a top mount for another 140mm or 120mm fan.

I would probably go for the two 140mm fans in the front and have the 120mm in the rear as exhaust. Not sure that the top mounted fan is necessary, but you could add that if it fits above the CPU cooler.

You can stick with NZXT for fans if you want. Plenty of brands to choose from though. I've personally tested:
Corsair SP120 (Static Pressure, for radiators and heatsinks)
Corsair AF140 (Airflow for getting air in a case)
Phanteks PH-F140SP (Static Pressure)
Cougar Vortex 120mm (Static Pressure)
Xigmatek makes some decent fans, but they don't seem to be making the model I have.
Arctic has some decent static pressure fans.
I have a pile of Bitfenix fans, their standard case fans are decent for the money, same for Cooler Master. I don't recommend the high end BitFenix fans, a bit loud for their performance.

Generally to identify static pressure fans vs airflow fans is that static pressure fans have large blades close together. Airflow fans smaller widely spaced blades.

A common home built workstation fan would probably be something from Noctua or Sharkoon. They are expensive, but considered to be the best.

Can you say me some case where i can use Be quiet! DARK ROCK PRO 3?

 

[Eximo]

You can use those PCPartpicker links to look at available coolers to see if those cases are available to you. Given the number of cases I could put over a hundred in front of you, but that won't matter if they aren't available.