Obama Authorizing Air Strikes in Iraq

[4Ryan6]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...izes-air-strikes-humanitarian-effort-in-iraq/

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/08/w...to-aid-trapped-iraqis-officials-say.html?_r=0

http://news.yahoo.com/jihadist-offensive-sparks-mass-iraq-exodus-084039459.html

Talk about a flip flop individual!

What happens Mr. O when you yourself are responsible for innocent women and children being killed, when you spewed so much regarding the Bush administrations shortcomings, and look at you now!

Did you even consider you had pulled out of Iraq too soon?, Well I guess you will now!

Of course you can always blame someone else, Right!

For the record, I was against going into Iraq in the first place!

But once we were committed we had a responsibility to the Iraqi people to finish the job!

It wasn't finished when Bush Senior did his thing the first time, and the Iraqi people were left hanging at Saddam Husseins mercy, or lack of mercy!

Look what baby boy JR did, with all his lies of weapons of mass destruction, he started this 2nd farce!

But now, it's your turn Mr.O and by pulling out too soon, you've created a nice mess to add your account, but sooner or later missile strikes do kill the innocent, what then Mr. O.

You become what you despised, ranted, and raved against!

 

[Snipergod87]

I think we pulled out to late and shouldn't have gotten into this mess in the first place.

 

[4Ryan6]

I think we pulled out to late and shouldn't have gotten into this mess in the first place.

Right! We never should have gotten into it in the first place, I 100% agree!

 

[ctbaars]

I agree with your position here, Ryan. I'm sure President Obama understands what you're saying too. Power always makes us what we "despised, ranted, and raved against" to get us there. This would happen with you or me or CDdude55 etc. I believe he made this decision with a heavy heart and desire to help the starving and dehydrated Christians and children.

 

[musical marv]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...izes-air-strikes-humanitarian-effort-in-iraq/

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/08/w...to-aid-trapped-iraqis-officials-say.html?_r=0

http://news.yahoo.com/jihadist-offensive-sparks-mass-iraq-exodus-084039459.html

Talk about a flip flop individual!

What happens Mr. O when you yourself are responsible for innocent women and children being killed, when you spewed so much regarding the Bush administrations shortcomings, and look at you now!

Did you even consider you had pulled out of Iraq too soon?, Well I guess you will now!

Of course you can always blame someone else, Right!

For the record, I was against going into Iraq in the first place!

But once we were committed we had a responsibility to the Iraqi people to finish the job!

It wasn't finished when Bush Senior did his thing the first time, and the Iraqi people were left hanging at Saddam Husseins mercy, or lack of mercy!

Look what baby boy JR did, with all his lies of weapons of mass destruction, he started this 2nd farce!

But now, it's your turn Mr.O and by pulling out too soon, you've created a nice mess to add your account, but sooner or later missile strikes do kill the innocent, what then Mr. O.

You become what you despised, ranted, and raved against!

Obama should have never pulled all the troops out of Iraq period. Now we have a complete mess on our hands again.Obama again screwed up!

 

[Pinhedd]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...izes-air-strikes-humanitarian-effort-in-iraq/

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/08/w...to-aid-trapped-iraqis-officials-say.html?_r=0

http://news.yahoo.com/jihadist-offensive-sparks-mass-iraq-exodus-084039459.html

Talk about a flip flop individual!

What happens Mr. O when you yourself are responsible for innocent women and children being killed, when you spewed so much regarding the Bush administrations shortcomings, and look at you now!

Did you even consider you had pulled out of Iraq too soon?, Well I guess you will now!

Of course you can always blame someone else, Right!

For the record, I was against going into Iraq in the first place!

But once we were committed we had a responsibility to the Iraqi people to finish the job!

It wasn't finished when Bush Senior did his thing the first time, and the Iraqi people were left hanging at Saddam Husseins mercy, or lack of mercy!

Look what baby boy JR did, with all his lies of weapons of mass destruction, he started this 2nd farce!

But now, it's your turn Mr.O and by pulling out too soon, you've created a nice mess to add your account, but sooner or later missile strikes do kill the innocent, what then Mr. O.

You become what you despised, ranted, and raved against!

We didn't pull out of Iraq because we wanted to, we pulled out because the Iraqi government insisted on creating a sectarian mess and wouldn't grant a status of forces agreement that met our terms.

 

[Reynod]

Omama pulled the troops out because of the US financial position ... something you guys were ranting about previously.

Damned if you do ... damned if you don't.

 

[ctbaars]

Oh yeah. I forgot about that. Reynod, it wasn't financial, Pinhedd is correct.
It was also politically convenient. His best supporters wanted withdrawal at any cost.

 

[4Ryan6]

Same, Same!

Anyway you look at it!

 

[musical marv]

I think we pulled out to late and shouldn't have gotten into this mess in the first place.

Right! We never should have gotten into it in the first place, I 100% agree!

Mind our own business and take care of ourselves first.We have plenty of problems in our own backyard.

 

[Deleted member 1300495]

I believe we should have never gotten into this extreme mess of going into countries that have nothing to do with us and trying to "help" them. Look at all the years and years of war and dead and injured soldiers, we should have never gone anti isolationist in the first place. Yeah I believe that we should have still traded with other countries but there is still no reason to just barge into different countries for no actual apparent reason. If we had stayed with this policy, maybe 9/11 might have not had happened at all! Maybe all of those American lives both in the building and in the battlefield could have been saved. But I guess we will never know. Maybe this is all a test from God to see if we are strong.

 

[4Ryan6]

Maybe this is all a test from God to see if we are strong.

More like the fulfillment of prophecy!

Believe or Not!

Matters Not!

The pieces of the puzzle are falling into place.

 

[musical marv]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...izes-air-strikes-humanitarian-effort-in-iraq/

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/08/w...to-aid-trapped-iraqis-officials-say.html?_r=0

http://news.yahoo.com/jihadist-offensive-sparks-mass-iraq-exodus-084039459.html

Talk about a flip flop individual!Obama will go down as the worse president we ever had including H. Hoover with the depression he got us into.

What happens Mr. O when you yourself are responsible for innocent women and children being killed, when you spewed so much regarding the Bush administrations shortcomings, and look at you now!

Did you even consider you had pulled out of Iraq too soon?, Well I guess you will now!

Of course you can always blame someone else, Right!

For the record, I was against going into Iraq in the first place!

But once we were committed we had a responsibility to the Iraqi people to finish the job!

It wasn't finished when Bush Senior did his thing the first time, and the Iraqi people were left hanging at Saddam Husseins mercy, or lack of mercy!

Look what baby boy JR did, with all his lies of weapons of mass destruction, he started this 2nd farce!

But now, it's your turn Mr.O and by pulling out too soon, you've created a nice mess to add your account, but sooner or later missile strikes do kill the innocent, what then Mr. O.

You become what you despised, ranted, and raved against!

We didn't pull out of Iraq because we wanted to, we pulled out because the Iraqi government insisted on creating a sectarian mess and wouldn't grant a status of forces agreement that met our terms.

 

[musical marv]

Obama is a pathetic leader with no guts at all and in the end we all suffer again . The Middle East is exploding, Ukraine and Russia fighting for power and he struts off for a vacation.Putin and China laughing at us all the time.

 

[Pinhedd]

Obama is a pathetic leader with no guts at all and in the end we all suffer again . The Middle East is exploding, Ukraine and Russia fighting for power and he struts off for a vacation.Putin and China laughing at us all the time.

What precisely would you do in his place?

 

[Beezy]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...izes-air-strikes-humanitarian-effort-in-iraq/

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/08/w...to-aid-trapped-iraqis-officials-say.html?_r=0

http://news.yahoo.com/jihadist-offensive-sparks-mass-iraq-exodus-084039459.html

Talk about a flip flop individual!

What happens Mr. O when you yourself are responsible for innocent women and children being killed, when you spewed so much regarding the Bush administrations shortcomings, and look at you now!

Did you even consider you had pulled out of Iraq too soon?, Well I guess you will now!

Of course you can always blame someone else, Right!

For the record, I was against going into Iraq in the first place!

But once we were committed we had a responsibility to the Iraqi people to finish the job!

It wasn't finished when Bush Senior did his thing the first time, and the Iraqi people were left hanging at Saddam Husseins mercy, or lack of mercy!

Look what baby boy JR did, with all his lies of weapons of mass destruction, he started this 2nd farce!

But now, it's your turn Mr.O and by pulling out too soon, you've created a nice mess to add your account, but sooner or later missile strikes do kill the innocent, what then Mr. O.

You become what you despised, ranted, and raved against!

well there's still oil there.

 

[wanamingo]

I think we pulled out to late and shouldn't have gotten into this mess in the first place.

I said almost the same thing to my ex but under a much different context...

 

[ctbaars]

Is it a consensus then that we should have not gone into Iraq the first time? To save Kuwait? I have to say, thinking about this, I believe I support this particular action.

 

[Pinhedd]

Is it a consensus then that we should have not gone into Iraq the first time? To save Kuwait? I have to say, thinking about this, I believe I support this particular action.

I've never heard anyone state that the first gulf war was anything but completely justified. Iraqi forces were looting and pillaging Kuwait and to this day Iraq still hasn't paid the bulk of the war reparations imposed as a result.

 

[musical marv]

Omama pulled the troops out because of the US financial position ... something you guys were ranting about previously.

Damned if you do ... damned if you don't.

We are all losers in this situation we face now.No one is winning this and no one will.

 

[aford10]

Despite what you may think about Obama or our involvement, I know the Yazitis are sure glad we are involved.

 

[Deleted member 1300495]

If we never went there, if we weren't involved, we would have cured soooo many problems at home. Teen pregnancy, homelessness, vetarans affairs, etc. We should have kept to ourselves and made the world a better place behind the scenes.

 

[Pinhedd]

If we never went there, if we weren't involved, we would have cured soooo many problems at home. Teen pregnancy, homelessness, vetarans affairs, etc. We should have kept to ourselves and made the world a better place behind the scenes.

No we wouldn't have. Those are not problems that can be solved by throwing ever increasing quantities of money at them. Diminishing returns kicks in after a while. If solving homelessness or teenage pregnancy were a simple matter of funding it would have been fixed long ago.

It's also not appropriate to ignore the trade benefits brought on by regime changes in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Foreign investment has helped the GDP of Iraq increase 10 fold since the US led invasion and 20 fold since sanctions crippled Iraq's economy in the late 1990s.
Afghanistan is in a similar situation, around an 8 fold increase since the Taliban were ousted from power in 2001.

Then there's the consequences of leaving a genocidal madman in power unchecked. Saddam Hussein was a mean and crazy son of a bitch who had no qualms about launching missiles filled with nerve gas at whomever displeased him. It wasn't fair to the Iraqi people to keep them under such crippling sanctions indefinitely simply because their head of state had made enemies out of all of his neighbours.

 

[4Ryan6]

Is it a consensus then that we should have not gone into Iraq the first time? To save Kuwait? I have to say, thinking about this, I believe I support this particular action.

I've never heard anyone state that the first gulf war was anything but completely justified. Iraqi forces were looting and pillaging Kuwait and to this day Iraq still hasn't paid the bulk of the war reparations imposed as a result.

I to this day don't see how that is called some kind of gulf war, it was more like gulf slaughter for the US mainly done from the air, it wouldn't have been so bad if we had gone on in and dethroned Saddam and liberated the Iraqis then.

But we did a half a$$ed job with it, to stay politically correct and bailed before we could be charged with war crimes, because of the slaughtered Iraqi convoy that exited Kuwait, a great feather in our cap for air power but a sheer massacre none the less.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_of_Death

I wouldn't class this as a feather in our hats.

We didn't finish the job either!

We abandoned the Iraqi people back then so we laid the foundation for what's happening today.

 

[Pinhedd]

Is it a consensus then that we should have not gone into Iraq the first time? To save Kuwait? I have to say, thinking about this, I believe I support this particular action.

I've never heard anyone state that the first gulf war was anything but completely justified. Iraqi forces were looting and pillaging Kuwait and to this day Iraq still hasn't paid the bulk of the war reparations imposed as a result.

I to this day don't see how that is called some kind of gulf war, it was more like gulf slaughter for the US mainly done from the air, it wouldn't have been so bad if we had gone on in and dethroned Saddam and liberated the Iraqis then.

But we did a half a$$ed job with it, to stay politically correct and bailed before we could be charged with war crimes, because of the slaughtered Iraqi convoy that exited Kuwait, a great feather in our cap for air power but a sheer massacre none the less.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_of_Death

I wouldn't class this as a feather in our hats.

We didn't finish the job either!

We abandoned the Iraqi people back then so we laid the foundation for what's happening today.

It was indeed a slaughter but at the time it was not known how well the Iraqi army would fare against coalition troops. Many Coalition commanders were expecting a very tough and very costly invasion, the degree of success caught pretty much everyone off-guard. Stealth technology, precision guided munitions (cruise missiles), and GPS navigation all made their combat debuts during the Gulf War. In hindsight we know that all three of these work tremendously well, but in 1990 many people had their doubts.