Official Intel Ivy Bridge Discussion

[EXT64]

The closest Intel ever got to a half decent cooler was with the 6 Core Gulftown chips (a small tower cooler). That cooler does a great job cooling, though it isn't the quietest cooler for sure.

 

[de5_Roy]

Intel is trying to hide Ultrabook problems
http://semiaccurate.com/2012/05/31/intel-is-trying-to-hide-ultrabook-problems/
Ivy Bridge goes over 7GHz mark
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/27375-ivy-bridge-goes-over-7ghz-mark
Intel introduces dual-core Ivy Bridge chips
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/27364-intel-introduces-dual-core-ivy-bridge-chips

 

[Cazalan]

link me to what you speak of please, I'm out of loop.

These guys. 2C/4T mobile i7 CPUs.

Maybe just because they have HD 4000?

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i7/Intel-Core%20i7-3667U%20Mobile%20processor.html

 

[archibael]

I too have been playing with the HD4K on my 3770K, although my main GPU is an HD7970 factory oc'd (Gigabyte). I have the HD4K connected to a 1080P plasma TV via the Asus Z77 mobo HDMI connector, and the 7970 connected to a 1080P monitor (27"), and so far the only issue I've encountered is that the HD4K doesn't want to adjust the scaling or overscan for the TV, so the desktop or a full-window app extends slightly off the visible TV screen. I haven't yet found any option for zero scaling ("dot for dot") yet in the Intel control panel, and I installed the latest Intel drivers..

Typically this is the TV which must be set to dot for dot or not. The drivers are gonna default to standard resolutions (1920x1080, 1280x720, etc.) and your TV is going to apply overscan in converting the digital signal to the plasma pixel array. I've not heard of a card, including Intel's IGPs, which applies overscan itself instead of letting the TV do it.

What's your plasma brand and model number? I might be able to help you find the right settings.

 

[fazers_on_stun]

Typically this is the TV which must be set to dot for dot or not. The drivers are gonna default to standard resolutions (1920x1080, 1280x720, etc.) and your TV is going to apply overscan in converting the digital signal to the plasma pixel array. I've not heard of a card, including Intel's IGPs, which applies overscan itself instead of letting the TV do it.

What's your plasma brand and model number? I might be able to help you find the right settings.

I have a Pioneer Elite Pro-111FD (50"), but I had already set it up for dot-for-dot since I run both a PS3 and now the HD4K to it via an Onkyo A/V receiver. Will double-check it again, perhaps the auto-detect messed things up. Also have to figure out why no audio over that mobo HDMI link (Asus P8Z77-V-Deluxe).

 

[Guest]

I have a Pioneer Elite Pro-111FD (50"), but I had already set it up for dot-for-dot since I run both a PS3 and now the HD4K to it via an Onkyo A/V receiver. Will double-check it again, perhaps the auto-detect messed things up. Also have to figure out why no audio over that mobo HDMI link (Asus P8Z77-V-Deluxe).

you got this?

 

[de5_Roy]

gigabyte's new z77 mobo, with 32 phase power design
http://vr-zone.com/articles/gigabyte-s-32-phase-power-motherboard-z77x-up7/16147.html
more pics of the same
http://vr-zone.com/articles/gigabyte-s-32-phase-power-motherboard-z77x-up7/16147.html

 

[josejones]

They didn't go into much detail on this new Gigabyte Z77X-UP7. They didn't even mention an availability date and there's no mention of the Gigabyte Z77X-UP7 at Gigabyte's website either:

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/main.aspx?s=42

http://www.youtube.com/user/MoboTV2010

I'd like to hear more about the 32 phase control and Gigabyte's Ultra Durable 5 technology too, which Gigabyte claims:

"are able to deliver up to 60°C* cooler temperatures than traditional motherboards."

That's pretty significant, especially with the hot temps from the Ivy CPU's!

* I'm referring to temps inside the case, plus, my indoor temps of 85f, which all mean higher temps inside the case. So, anything that helps keep temps low is welcome by me. I should've been more clear.

 

[EXT64]

I think they are referring to the motherboard VRM, not the CPUs. 60C below where my 3770k maxes at would be below freezing.

 

[Cazalan]

tired of Gigabytes, I'm rockin' a GAZ68 now and had GA-990FX...
32 phase control is crazy though..

I too am surprised at the complexity motherboards are getting. I take a look at that PCB and think wow, any one of those parts could blow and my motherboard is toast. The chipsets are getting smaller (no more northbridge), no more on board video chips, yet there's more and more parts going down on the board anyway.

 

[fazers_on_stun]

you got this?
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/3418/120603084600.jpg

Hmm, thought I already set that, but will check again.

Thanks for the tip!

 

[josejones]

I think they are referring to the motherboard VRM, not the CPUs. 60C below where my 3770k maxes at would be below freezing.

I'm referring to temps inside the case, plus, my indoor temps of 85f, which all mean higher temps inside the case. So, anything that helps keep temps low is welcome by me. I should've been more clear.

 

[josejones]

Computex 2012 is ready to kick off in Taipei this week and Gigabyte has released its latest Ultra Durable 5 technology in time for the opening of the show. The new technology features high-current capable components designed to deliver better quality power for improved performance and cooler operation.

Part of the Ultra Durable 5 technology consists of IR3550 PowIRstage ICs from International Rectifier, when combined with Gigabyte's double layer copper PCB and high current Ferrite Core Chokes rated up to 60A, allow the new boards to run up to 60°C cooler when compared to traditional boards.

The IR3550 PowIRstage ICs are a single chip design with peak efficiency up to 95% which translates into cooler operating characteristics. Greater efficiency also means the technology can run cooler and deliver more power - all of which translates into greater overclocking capabilities. Gigabyte will be offering the new Ultra Durable 5 technology on three Intel X79 Express chipset motherboards (models GA-X79S-UP5 WIFI, GA-X79S-UP5 and GA-X79-UP4) as well as three Intel Z77 Express chipset boards (models GA-Z77X-UP7, GA-Z77X-UP5 TH and GA-Z77X-UP4 TH). Gigabyte did not disclose pricing or availability."

http://www.overclockersclub.com/news/31723/

 

[josejones]

I'm waiting to see if the new Gigabyte Z77Z-UP5 TH is worth waiting for - not just because of the two thunderbolt ports but, because of the alleged lower mobo temps, which I'm concerned about with our 85F indoor temps. I await a serious review. These new boards are supposed to be available by the end of June:

Gigabyte's Hardcore Thunderbolt Demo with GA-Z77Z-UP5 TH Motherboard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deImUH8aUHQ

Gigabyte Ultra Durable 5 at Computex, shows much lower temperatures
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLggGetNR14

http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/tech-news-gigabyte-announces-thunderbolt-enabled-motherboards-computex-2012-updated-video

Gigabyte Ultra Durable 5
http://www.gigabyte.com/press-center/news-page.aspx?nid=1128

 

[ddan49]

I've actually got a question. So IB has integrated USB 3.0... does that mean that SB 3.0 performs worse? Or that the standard for Z77 motherboards is now required to have USB 3.0?

 

[Guest]

there is no difference in USB 3.0 between SB or IB except where the controller is located.
SB = third party; IB = on the chipset.

 

[-Fran-]

If I recall correctly from Toms review, the Intel controller actually was better than the 3rd parties in most of the tests.

So, going by that, I'd say IB + Z/H7x chipsets are better with USB3 😛

Cheers!

 

[Guest]

If I recall correctly from Toms review, the Intel controller actually was better than the 3rd parties in most of the tests.

So, going by that, I'd say IB + Z/H7x chipsets are better with USB3 😛

Cheers!

yep you recall correctly and thanks for pointing that out because i had overlooked it

Although Intel’s Z77 Express offers minor power reductions and management software updates, integrated USB 3.0 and the inclusion of Virtu MVP are the best reasons for users to care.

Intel’s Z77 Express And Lucidlogix MVP: New Features For Gamers

 

[ddan49]

So USB 3.0 performs better on IB 'cause it's directly on the chipset?

Also, I do recall that article... but they still haven't released their "new test hardware" in order to actually test the USB 3.0 that was bottlenecked by their adapter. Anyone have any info on that?

 

[josejones]

I was talking to somebody who brought it up the other day and I just wanna double-check - z77 mobos do not require any integrated GPU for the Ivy Bridge HD4000 to work, correct? So, one does not need a discrete GPU, correct?

 

[EXT64]

Yep, no discrete GPU is needed (I ran mine that way for a while). The only requirements are (a) that the CPU have integrated graphics (which most SB and Ivys do have) and (b) that the motherboard has a DVI, VGA, or HDMI output.

 

[Guest]

ah . . . HD 4000 is there so you don't need a discrete . . .

 

[josejones]

Excellent, thanks for that confirmation - just as I suspected. So, I was right and I'll have to tell my buddy that there's no GPU needed just to have HD4000 integrated GPU.

I suppose I could wait for NVidia's Maxwell GPU then ...

NVIDIA GTC2010: CUDA GPU Roadmap 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq202LKkeHI

 

[Guest]

for watching DVD's then no.
for anything else, yes of course..

doooot 1366x768 gaming rrrrrooooooooolllllzzzzzzzzz!

 

[Guest]

unless on a notebook who has that resolution.?

and for the record my notebook is 1440 x 900..
😀

so next you're gonna say gaming on a notebook sucks, huh?