Official Intel Ivy Bridge Discussion

[Blandge]

thank you, i now know a reason why someone should buy a bulldozer.

Because AMD is a charitible organization who cares nothing about profits and sells their products below cost for the benefit of the consumer. That's why their revenue was down 11% last quarter.

 

[ddan49]

Because AMD is a charitible organization who cares nothing about profits and sells their products below cost for the benefit of the consumer. That's why their revenue was down 11% last quarter.

Now if only their CPUs were good...

 

[gamerk316]

Because AMD is a charitible organization who cares nothing about profits and sells their products below cost for the benefit of the consumer. That's why their revenue was down 11% last quarter.

To be fair, they sell their CPU's to other distributors, so I think you're seeing the results of fewer sales, rather then lowered prices [which the distributors have to eat]. Can't imagine AMD is making too much money per unit on BD though...

 

[Blandge]

To be fair, they sell their CPU's to other distributors, so I think you're seeing the results of fewer sales, rather then lowered prices [which the distributors have to eat]. Can't imagine AMD is making too much money per unit on BD though...

Lower sales due to overpricing on new products. Which proves the point my sarcastic comment was trying to make.

 

[gamerk316]

Lower sales due to overpricing on new products. Which proves the point my sarcastic comment was trying to make.

But as a result, they can make fewer units overall and sell each at a higher margin. Might make financial sense to do that, depending on how price sensitive sales are...just saying.

 

[Blandge]

But as a result, they can make fewer units overall and sell each at a higher margin. Might make financial sense to do that, depending on how price sensitive sales are...just saying.

But clearly it didn't work since they've recently slashed prices on all of their products and lowered revenue expectations

 

[gamerk316]

^^ Because prices were too high to start, so retailers weren't selling their stock, and thus not ordering new parts. So AMD has to sell parts at a loss [or less profit] in order to move their inventory.

While a FX-4100 $110 may be good for consumers, its bad for AMD.

 

[Blandge]

^^ Because prices were too high to start, so retailers weren't selling their stock, and thus not ordering new parts. So AMD has to sell parts at a loss [or less profit] in order to move their inventory.

While a FX-4100 $110 may be good for consumers, its bad for AMD.

Yes, but the real problem here isn't pricing, it is management and engineering. Maybe if AMD stopped firing all of its top engineers they could design a quad core part that performs better than $110

 

[-Fran-]

Yes, but the real problem here isn't pricing, it is management and engineering. Maybe if AMD stopped firing all of its top engineers they could design a quad core part that performs better than $110

I don't want to pull the "ethics" card here, but that phrase is interesting to say the least.

Intel is currently calling the shots in pricing, thanks to the overall control they have in the CPU manufacturing process as a whole. Now, the question is the profit margin they have for a USD$110 CPU compared to AMD. Is that a secret of some sort o I can actually know that?

Cheers!

 

[Blandge]

I don't want to pull the "ethics" card here, but that phrase is interesting to say the least.

Intel is currently calling the shots in pricing, thanks to the overall control they have in the CPU manufacturing process as a whole. Now, the question is the profit margin they have for a USD$110 CPU compared to AMD. Is that a secret of some sort o I can actually know that?

Cheers!

I would guess that Intel doesn't sell much of anything at lower margins than AMD at the same price point.

 

[ddan49]

How about we all just agree that Intel has an essential monopoly over the CPU market, and that's not going to change, and I don't think they are going to exactly outdo themselves on any more CPUs.

 

[gamerk316]

Yes, but the real problem here isn't pricing, it is management and engineering. Maybe if AMD stopped firing all of its top engineers they could design a quad core part that performs better than $110

But in order to keep their engineers, AMD would likely need to suffer larger monetary losses in the short term, due to higher payroll.

...Notice how we now just got into the relm of Supply-Side vs. Keynesian economics?

 

[Cazalan]

I don't want to pull the "ethics" card here, but that phrase is interesting to say the least.

Intel is currently calling the shots in pricing, thanks to the overall control they have in the CPU manufacturing process as a whole. Now, the question is the profit margin they have for a USD$110 CPU compared to AMD. Is that a secret of some sort o I can actually know that?

Cheers!

There isn't a definitive answer for individual products. Their operating margin is around 80%.

 

[VSTJuNkiE]

Sorry if this has been answered already, but... Where are the i3 IB's at? thought they were supposed to be out in June? Wanna do another build with one soon.. Thanks! 😀

 

[Bucky_Beaver]

^ http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Ai3%20processor&page=1

 

[Cazalan]

WTF.?!
I take it you didn't understand the question.

where are the Ivy Bridge i3 processors.?

The latest rumor is the 2nd week of September.


http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2012/2012071701_New_Intel_Core_i3_and_Pentium_CPUs_to_launch_in_September.html

 

[Guest]

but no PCI-E 3.0! how will i ever run a GTX 670 quad SLI?!?!?!

poor little i3s . .no K series, no HD 4000 but for one SKU and no PCI 3.0.

 

[Guest]

where does it say anything about PCI-E 3.0.?

Ivy Bridge Desktop Core i3 Processor Lineup Detailed, Lack PCIe Gen. 3.0

dude get with it . .

 

[Guest]

I was speaking in that particular article.....
derp.

oh i beg your pardon . . .
(jeez, sounding like an amd fanboy when you call them out on bulldozer not being all that . . "but in multi threaded applications . .")

 

[VSTJuNkiE]

The latest rumor is the 2nd week of September.


http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2012/2012071701_New_Intel_Core_i3_and_Pentium_CPUs_to_launch_in_September.html

Thanks!

 

[VSTJuNkiE]

but no PCI-E 3.0! how will i ever run a GTX 670 quad SLI?!?!?!

poor little i3s . .no K series, no HD 4000 but for one SKU and no PCI 3.0.

What?! Really? Poop....

Oh Intel... *sigh*

 

[Blandge]

What?! Really? Poop....

Oh Intel... *sigh*

I wouldn't worry. If you're buying an i3 you won't be needing PCIe gen 3.

 

[VSTJuNkiE]

I wouldn't worry. If you're buying an i3 you won't be needing PCIe gen 3.

Why not? Are the i3's not able to handle PCIe 3.0? Genuinely curious...

 

[VSTJuNkiE]

no.

Did I read right that the i3's don't have HT either? Basically looking to build a low-mid grade gaming rig... thanks for all the help so far!

 

[VSTJuNkiE]

hyper-threading = yes.

Thanks.