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There's only one problem with your conclusion - the way CPU's are made (imaging rectangular cores onto silicon wafers) it wouldn't be appreciably cheaper to produce a tri-core chip than it is to produce a quad-core chip. 4 cores fit into a nice rectangular chip, 3 cores don't. Tri-cores only make sense if you have major yield issues, and thus lots of 4-core groups where 1 core is defective.
 
Hey! Why is'nt there an intel cpu with 3 cores that provides performance somewhere between the i3 and i5? have no idea if that's possible..just curious..
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almost my question that i asked many times 😛 , though my question was "why there is no unlocled i3" 😀
and answer was if they do so then no one will buy locked i5 (partially unlocked)

also it will spoil the plan of intel's to charge us twice like this
http://ark.intel.com/products/53424/Intel-Core-i3-2102-Processor-3M-Cache-3_10-GHz
Core i3-2102 unlocks into the Core i3-2153, jumping, in terms of clock speed, from 3.1 GHz to 3.6 GHz.
and to unlock you will need to buy upgrade cards thus kicking on our wallet twice for same product :heink:

seems like intel rather prefer to charge you twice for same product with a little upgrade (bait 😉 )
 
^^ that core i3 unlocks to a 3.6 ghz cpu?!?
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3.6ghz is still slow 😀 if they can provide uoclocked model under their "kick twice" policy then it will be a good bait 😀
imagine an i3 at running at 5+ghz and that too under 150w 😗 (daydreaming 😛 , or someone who knows how to change cpu's microcode/model :??: can make it 😀 like in amd's case of core unlocking)

looking at the i3 cpu specs, this seemed different:
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:/ i3-21xx cpu line for bga !? :??:
 



With the current state of games tri core is good for most of them. My i5 and i7 rarely go over 2 highly utilized cores.

Intel just doesn't have a reason to release 3 core chips. They have so many SKUs as it is with a wide range of price points. Also, if they did offer 3 core chips then it would just give software companies more incentive to stick with 2 core optimization.
 



The way Intel makes CPUs now the desktop i3/i5/i7 are all the same master die. The i3 die isn't smaller and cheaper to make than the i7 die. They just disable features from the i7 to make the wide range of SKUs they offer. In some cases it is due to real defects but this late in the process it's mostly to make quotas.
 


That is simply not true.

Intel has a separate mask for dual cores.
 



You're right they do have a separate dual core mask but they also harvest/bin quads to duals, and duals to singles. They add more masks over the life cycle of the process, specifically for low power and mobile processors. I've also seen presentations from Intel on varying die harvesting techniques.

Intel blurs the waters with their SKUs. Some mobile i5/i7 are dual core now. Looking at Intel's website they rarely put the transistor count on the specs.
 
Thanks for all the info guys/girls :) and have a good year ahead.

edit: most of the stuff you guys say just goes over my head because i'm not familiar with cpu architecture and such but i'll be back for a more meaningful discussion when i learn more..
 

 


Supposedly in 2H2013, some months after the Haswell i5/i7 launches.

Haswell - Pentium G3100, G3120

 


I'm not surprised. Even a semi-casual onlooker such as myself can see that there are too many Ivy Bridge SKUs in the retail consumer market. Another one that I think should meet the same fate is the i3-3240. Who did Intel think would pay $20 more over the 3220 when the only difference is a 100MHz increase in clock speed due to increasing the multiplier by one?

On that same topic, why did Intel make a HD 4000 Graphics version of the 3220 chip (i.e. the i3-3225) instead of the slightly faster 3240? It just doesn't make any sense...
 
Hello,

I am trying to overclock my 3770K but Intel Burn Test keeps crashing on every voltage I set (I have tried 1.205-1.25). Temps are 60 celsius degrees and I don't know why I get these errors all the time. I am trying for 4,5GHz stable. Sometimes Chrome and other programs crash too. How can I prevent this?

GA-Z77X-UD3H
3770K Costa Rica (dont know if that matters but I'll put it here anyway)
Silver Arrow SB-E
 



1.25v is probably not enough. Start out with a higher voltage, then decrease it in minute increments until you find the lowest voltage that will overclock to 4.5GHz, in a stable fashion.

Edit: Higher voltage within reason, do not start with 1.5v, that is probably beyond the safe operating spec of that chip.
 
Hey friends i have a question..I recently bought a core i5 3570..My ambient temp is 29-30 degres...My max temp is 44-45 on core 1 while playing Far Cry 3..Do I need a better cooling than my stock fan? I have turned turbo off
 

Sounds alright. Try turning turbo back on and running a CPU stress test. As long as it doesn't go above 65-70C it's fine.
 
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